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Best of PSN #6 wtf happened to 5?

Shinji..just remembered something so don't take this the wrong way but, we had a small talk on when i meant X's moves, but your prior mentioned about hitting g0ofus with Sophie's 236b stuff and Sophie's a,k(high, low string)... because you actually typed it out exactly as i just did, and i just back tracked to recover it to read... what happened to that post by the way?...it seemed to have vanished:confused: or maybe edited?
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ShinjiUrahara said:
I don't you understand what I mean when I say "respect frames" you call spamming Xia's 2K, Soph's A,K,
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Ah nv here it is... KrazieCD, no offense man but, you def did not read thoroughly when you said i sounded wrong vs Shinji being right, because writing it like that in your post Shinji means you understood what EXACTLY what i meant in the following posts...which means you understood what i said to begin with and you just could have acknowledged you were wrong even when i tried defending myself with text corrections... and how your version of how a A~k in text is interpreted in your view... you did it just as i did with X's A,K a.k.a A~K, but you used Sophie's A,K(<-typed exactly as is) as an example which is a h,l string just as i mentioned about X's A,K m,m string...damn, now i feel like someone tried to rob my brain/intelligence right under my nose now :(

Edit: surely when you wrote it wasn't a typo..because the tilde(~) is waaaay over to the left of a keyboard and the comma(,) is on more to the right side but... i still accept your apology and i am still sorry for my sarcastic responses earlier.
 
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JustKill said:
Shinji..just remembered something so don't take this the wrong way but, we had a small talk on when i meant X's moves, but your prior mentioned about hitting g0ofus with Sophie's 236b stuff and Sophie's a,k(high, low string)... because you actually typed it out exactly as i just did, and i just back tracked to recover it to read... what happened to that post by the way?...it seemed to have vanished:confused: or maybe edited?
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I don't know man but I know what you are talking about. But yeah Soph's A,K yeah... that move
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Shinji..just remembered something so don't take this the wrong way but, we had a small talk on when i meant X's moves, but your prior mentioned about hitting g0ofus with Sophie's 236b stuff and Sophie's a,k(high, low string)... because you actually typed it out exactly as i just did, and i just back tracked to recover it to read... what happened to that post by the way?...it seemed to have vanished:confused: or maybe edited?
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Ah nv here it is... KrazieCD, no offense man but, you def did not read thoroughly when you said i sounded wrong vs Shinji being right, because writing it like that in your post Shinji means you understood what EXACTLY what i meant in the following posts...which means you understood what i said to begin with and you just could have acknowledged you were wrong even when i tried defending myself with text corrections... and how your version of how a A~k in text is interpreted in your view... you did it just as i did with X's A,K a.k.a A~K, but you used Sophie's A,K(<-typed exactly as is) as an example which is a h,l string just as i mentioned about X's A,K m,m string...damn, now i feel like someone tried to rob my brain/intelligence right under my nose now :(

Edit: surely when you wrote it wasn't a typo..because the tilde(~) is waaaay over to the left of a keyboard and the comma(,) is on more to the right side but... i still accept your apology and i am still sorry for my sarcastic responses earlier.
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NOOOO.... I did not man. Soph's actually does have an A,K I thought you meant her A,K when you put A,K by itself with no character name by it so I assumed you were talking about Soph. Had you said A~K I would have thought otherwise but that wasn't the case.

You didn't really mention the "~" version of things until Esom said something but most people here on 8way don't use A comma K by a means of saying A~K thats like two totally different things and it confuses people.

See you're saying A,K also known as A~K and we don't talk like that... A,K and A~K were made different for a reason which is not to confuse people. Because technically A,K for Xia does not exist, it never really occurred to me that A,K and A~K meant the same thing until Esom spoke.

Prime example as to why we don't say A,K also known as A~K...
When I mentioned Soph's A,K you thought I was talking about A,K and A~K NO... Soph doesn't have an A~K (technically) so it's just A,K and with Xia it's just A~K or aK. So to not make things complicated we just keep it simple and leave A comma K and A slide K by itself with its own meanings.
 
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ok ok..now i know your just messin' with me Shinji, i cant cope with people that keep changing what they mean, and say...no no no, now your tryin' to tell me what i was originally saying BACK to me, as if i never said it..just forget it and carry on with whatever logic you keep changing every post and almost every paragraph in them..this is stupid.

prior to me posting, this is what you said this in your 1st paragraph above "NOOOO.... I did not man. Soph's actually does have an A,K I thought you meant her A,K when you put A,K by itself with no character name by it so I assumed you were talking about Soph"...

so which one is it?... you mentioned A,K(as written) 3 times in your post written the same way, and 2 of those 3 mentioned, differ from each other(written same way) but mean the same thing? or others..which is it?...lemme let you in on something else, when a letter is written in parenthesis...(k) here, at 8wayrun, means to hold that input button down, for it could lead to a delayed move input or a special stance like X's a,(a), to go into her SXS stance..

Sorry but, you keep saying, nooo, as if i'm wrong, yet i know i was correct about you, i corrected your post and you came back with another noooo, and that you(Shinji) never said that or so you keep sayingby saying "NOOO" so many times, so, go back... read your own posts and you might then see you made a simple mistake or you just don't care and or your having fun pissing people off manipulating their own words.
 
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lol you swear I am trying to piss you off or whatever but that is not the case man. Maybe you are just not getting what I am saying but im not trying to get on your nerves just trying to get you to see things another way.
 
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JustKill said:
Ah nv here it is... KrazieCD, no offense man but, you def did not read thoroughly when you said i sounded wrong vs Shinji being right, because writing it like that in your post Shinji means you understood what EXACTLY what i meant in the following posts...which means you understood what i said to begin with and you just could have acknowledged you were wrong even when i tried defending myself with text corrections... and how your version of how a A~k in text is interpreted in your view... you did it just as i did with X's A,K a.k.a A~K, but you used Sophie's A,K(<-typed exactly as is) as an example which is a h,l string just as i mentioned about X's A,K m,m string...damn, now i feel like someone tried to rob my brain/intelligence right under my nose now :(

Edit: surely when you wrote it wasn't a typo..because the tilde(~) is waaaay over to the left of a keyboard and the comma(,) is on more to the right side but... i still accept your apology and i am still sorry for my sarcastic responses earlier.
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I'm sorry but I didn't understand this post at all. I can't tell if you're talking to me or Shinji here. Either way, I still agree with Shinji. YouAreFail explained exactly what I was trying to explain, except he used the A~K notation which I forgot about. From the way I've learned calibur notation, A~K is not the same as A,K. A~K is the same as aK, both of those notations describe a slide imput, meaning press A then immediately afterwards press K. For clarity I'll show the difference between something like A,A and aA/A~A with this example. In SC3 Kilik had a move with the notation aA or A~A, this move was famous because it lead to a 40% combo on CH. You have to use a slide imput to do it, meaning you press A and then immediately press A again. Kilik also had the regular two high A attacks, the notation for that move was simply A,A. You press A, Kilik does the first high attack then you press A again during the finishing animation of the A slash and he does another high slash and then you had the option of pressing B for the 3rd mid vertical slash. The notation was A,A,B. Those notations show you the difference of whether you have to press the button immediately after, or if you can pause and then press the next button. I hope that shows you the difference, that's all I was trying to explain.

Sorry all you other guys for extending this debate, but I just wanted to explain myself clearly, since JustKill didn't seem to understand what I was saying in my first post.
 
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Nori said:
Justkill: Can you show me a vid of somebody offline stepping X's 2k consistently? I have never seen that done
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cant show u a vid but i can confirm RTD does it consistently.

Justkillz n Shinji plz stfu about aK. Im getting a headache reading that shit. Im sure there's a noob FAQ thread somewhere.

p.s.

1kAA pwns
 
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1kAA is pure trash (that's about the worst possible thing you can do with X), aK is much better or just 1kA, but 11B is way better than all that shit.

you can only step 2K at certain times and it's always based on anticipation, same with blocking 2K. a mix of anticipation, range, whether you're already 8wring, whether there's a pause before the attack comes or not, and random shit that's hard to put in words. Can't be stepped or blocked consistently if used right, but I understand what justkill said.
 
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Lol, I swear you guys talking about stepping Xia's 2K, GIing, all of the above is pure lolz if anyone manages to do so im sure it's pure luck.


^ And it doesn't get anymore pro than that. Both of those guys placed top 20 or 30 at World Cup. That says a lot.
 
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@KrazieCD...so your not confused, here is a post replying to you ABOUT Shinji of what MY argument was...

ok, i understood what YOU were saying(Krazie) BUT, i didn't understand WHY you were backing him on something that i corrected(a post that was made before you/YAF chimed in)..its in the same post that I last wrote, and you last quoted me on..CAN YOU SEE IT!!.. cascaded in the rectangular red box above the part you quoted me on from my post??!...ok, now that was my argument, ( EVERYONE ELSE..relax,that whole 2k shit is gone and past so everyone forget about it and move on)

... Now, i was correct about it to begin with about him(Shinji), 1st he says he doesn't use A,K OR A~K to depict notations to explain a followed chain of movements/attacks(which to me both mean the same thing in text, and that he(Shinji) DOESN'T use those notations and that there ISN'T A,K for X but he says there IS for Sophie??!!...and both ARE 2 hit strings(2 inputs 1 after the other to be followed by another to make/create a 2 HIT string!!(YOU SEE WHERE I AM AT NOW Krazie?)...

...and when he mentioned about Sophie(in the last post i typed before this one that i quoted him on) he used the notation of this (A,K) to explain a 2 HIT STRING..and thtas what I was saying from the get go!!!(which you said he is right when I, was the one saying it meant a 2 hit string to begin with), whether it'd be for Sophie/Cassy or Mother Teresa whoever, all in all that it meant the SAME THING..was MY argument, yet he declined at confessing he was incorrect to this point by replying with a bunch of "NOOOO"..." "JustKill your all wrong" and "i did not say" this and that and the other thing... and i had to quote all the posts where it showed him manipulating my words and at the same time sounding hypocritical...

...DO YOU understand now what i am am saying Krazie??!! :) ...if not, its probably because you didn't read all this junk from the get go, and you just decided to jump in and take a side(the wrong one at that) before reading thoroughly what MY continued argument was, but i guess some people dont give a crap about understanding who is right/wrong and just take a side and say nope, your wrong...sorry, anyways, there it is for you... point blank, direct/simple... and maybe others will understand too after reading this FINAL post on this nonsense.
 
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ShadowG: I don't see how RTD can SEE 2K and STEP it. Not saying you are a liar, I know you play him pretty often but think about what you are saying. That's crazy my friend. And you better be coming to Trashday, if your not, me ep and ice will gang up on you and........I don't know........flick you in the nuts or something.


Justkill: For all that is holy in the world, can we get back to the topic? Por favor?
 
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Nori:...hehe, np amigo!

hmmm, if i was to take a guess as to what ShadowG is saying it would be something along the lines of Hilde's fairly large step/speed ability..so it probably just makes it easier for RTD to do it with her at that point, he might actually even be able to step~charge move interrupt...I've seen Hilde get away with stuff like that, but then again, maybe the X player was at -disadvantage so when the player did the 2k, he was just able to simply step/side walk it from that point too at a +advantage.
 
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Justkill: I'll hit you with PMs for the rest of this notation debate we're having.

As far as X 2K, I read somewhere that her 2K has the best tracking and that it was unsteppable but that still didn't sound right to me. I can believe someone like Hilde can step it, her step seems like it's the best in the game.
 
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It's not a matter of stepping it or not. It's a matter of SEEING it and STEPPING it ON REACTION. That to me seems impossible. It's not like somebody is doing BB and the 2nd B is slow, you can see it and step it every time. You can't SEE 2K and step it, not even Hilde. I don't believe it, sorry. I'm not hating on RTD, I don't think ANY human can react fast enough to do it. I think when he's stepping 2K, he was already guessing right and stepping regardless and the fact Hilde has fantastic step helps also.
 
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Hmmm, well, "seeing it" is something that might/may come along with knowing the character very well...him and Mick used to go back and forth with her vs each other back in the day, so i think this may have a part to play in it too guys, and we all remember how fast SC2 game engine play was compared to SC4...

Krazie: check pm's
 
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Nori said:
It's not a matter of stepping it or not. It's a matter of SEEING it and STEPPING it ON REACTION. That to me seems impossible. It's not like somebody is doing BB and the 2nd B is slow, you can see it and step it every time. You can't SEE 2K and step it, not even Hilde. I don't believe it, sorry. I'm not hating on RTD, I don't think ANY human can react fast enough to do it. I think when he's stepping 2K, he was already guessing right and stepping regardless and the fact Hilde has fantastic step helps also.
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Yeah of course I agree with this, but I didn't think that was the issue that was being debated. Of course no one can see a 15 frame 2K coming and step it, if that were the case this player would be totally immune to 2K,B with Mitsu or 2B+K from Amy. I thought we were arguing the steppability of X's 2K, which I heard through the grapevine was supposed to be unsteppable. That fact sounded wrong to me but I heard it from somewhere.
 
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justkill said:
Now, i was correct about it to begin with about him(Shinji), 1st he says he doesn't use A,K OR A~K to depict notations to explain a followed chain of movements/attacks(which to me both mean the same thing in text, and that he(Shinji) DOESN'T use those notations and that there ISN'T A,K for X but he says there IS for Sophie??!!...and both ARE 2 hit strings(2 inputs 1 after the other to be followed by another to make/create a 2 HIT string!!(YOU SEE WHERE I AM AT NOW Krazie?)...
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No no no, what I said was I don't use "~" that's exactly what I said.

And we don't speak SC notations in terms "comma" meaning the same thing as "~" so in other words A,K and A~K are two different things.

With that said, yes, Sophie has A,K and not A~K and with Xia it's the opposite.
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It's not a matter of stepping it or not. It's a matter of SEEING it and STEPPING it ON REACTION. That to me seems impossible. It's not like somebody is doing BB and the 2nd B is slow, you can see it and step it every time. You can't SEE 2K and step it, not even Hilde. I don't believe it, sorry. I'm not hating on RTD, I don't think ANY human can react fast enough to do it. I think when he's stepping 2K, he was already guessing right and stepping regardless and the fact Hilde has fantastic step helps also.
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Exactly. And if you saw my vids vs RTD you'd notice he never blocked Amy's 2B+K on reaction. So bottom-line if someone blocks, GI's, Jump or Step Xia's 2K, it's purely by chance, luck, good guess whatever one wants to call it.
 
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Krazie:...i agree as well to most degree's here is why...

It actually(most likely) is completely non-step-able because of 1 major/minor thing depending on how you see it, and that would be after X hitting an opponent with an +0 recover attack, after her attacking making the player block whatever move or simply +advantage on hit, then making her 2k non-step-able, but if it was just to be thrown out there from desperation by X all by itself, it (might) then be step-able from that point with a fast stepping character.

Edit: but just plain throwing it out there multiple times whether running up and doing it and the opponent anticipates it well, from here i believe it can be stepped on reaction because its the same move being done over and over, but i would still have to say it has to be a fast stepping character to do such a thing, if at all.
 
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