Teh Gaze Thread

Is the Male Gaze oppressing women?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • No

    Votes: 4 25.0%

  • Mighty Omega smells

    Votes: 15 93.8%
  • Total voters
    16
Anyone who thinks being obese is genetic is looking for stuff to blame that isnt themselves. All of this can be controlled with lifestyle changes. If a child grows up in the wilderness alone, they don't come out looking like a blimp. They come out skinny or swole. Come on now.
 
Party Wolf said:
Anyone who thinks being obese is genetic is looking for stuff to blame that isnt themselves. All of this can be controlled with lifestyle changes. If a child grows up in the wilderness alone, they don't come out looking like a blimp. They come out skinny or swole. Come on now.
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So what you're saying is, we need to send fat people to the forest?
 
I've seen some fatties in African tribes but its not like they were unfit either.

Being obese takes years of dedication to being a shit face and shouldn't be considered the same as being chubby or over fat.
 
Genetics:

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Alex.J said:
So making an issue seem one sided and not mentioning the other side is raising awareness for everyone? I can't see how that begins to make sense lol. If too much of media is focused on promoting fat women and next to none for promoting fat men. There becomes an imbalance of perception. We automatically assume women suffer from this problem more. Which doesn't seem close to reality.

And I don't disagree that women are perceived differently in terms of sexuality. But in terms of media, it tends to balance out. Look at the news for instance. The man is older, well groomed, and distinguished. The woman anchor is always younger, wears a dress, and tons of make up. Both men and women are adhering to social norms and what people want to look at. In terms of weight, both men and woman are perceived as comic relief when they are fat. Men in media have plenty of problems. For instance, the red carpet, men are pretty much expected to only wear black suites. Women can wear a ton of different things though.

To say women have it worse with 0 evidence is foolish.
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If I need to keep reiterating points, I'm not going to continue arguing about this (It's not something I'm personally invested in anyway, being neither a woman nor overweight). I've already explained three times now that fat acceptance is a pansexual movement at its core, and the focus on women is due to other societal factors. I have no idea why you're so bothered that women (who have been treated like shit across the planet for most of human history including current times) would like to have a bit more exposure than men in regards to this. There's no risk of an imbalance in perception in the other direction because men are already represented (and represented well, at that) more than enough in basically everything. The idea that fat men will somehow become invisible because of female fat awareness is laughable, and could only possibly be believable if you live in a fantasy world where the "feminazis" are out to destroy men. People assume women suffer more from fat shaming because women in general continue to be treated badly even in first world countries (And for the reasons I stated in previous posts).

Societal norms, and by extension gender roles, are idiotic as a whole and not something I'm really going to get into right now (You can read all about them on your own if you'd like, there's a ton of good writing and research about them). Women being expected to be young, wearing tons of makeup and revealing clothes, and attractive is a much bigger problem overall than men being expected to wear a suit and be clean cut.
 
Paragon049 said:
It's not something I'm personally invested in anyway.
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You say that then start trying to personally attack me haha. The butthurt is real.

Anyways, your argument is based on women having it worse. You claim they have it worse and say there is research out there but fail to present any research. If you had half a brain, you would know I am skeptical if they have it worse. Just saying it or believing it doesn't make it true. Where is the concrete evidence of such? If you so strongly think men have it easy, answer these questions for me.

If there was a burning building or sinking ship, and the firefighters and crew are instructed to save the men last. Would you rather be a woman or a man?


If a war comes and the draft is reinstated and only men are forced to sign into the draft. Would you rather be a woman or a man?


If you are married and get divorced. And you are settling terms for custody of kids and split of wealth. Would you rather be the woman or man?


You want to become a Police officer or Firefighter and know that women can fail the physical portion of the test and still get hired. Would you rather be a woman or man?


Point is, men have it worse in many categories. To say otherwise is sheer nonsense. If you can't present to me solid evidence that women have it worse in media compared to men. You have no argument and you probably shouldn't argue. As for better represented, is that why the feminist movement is so incredibly strong and men don't have any counterpart to it?

Also, gender roles make sense to a certain degree. Men are scientifically stronger than women. It's highly inefficient to have women do all the lifting if men are stronger. A woman who has a baby probably should stay home instead of being on a fishing boat that may kill her and the baby.
 
I had a chat with Paragon and he now understands he was arguing from the perspective of a fat women. A perspective he hasn't spent one day living as. This is more the problem than any feminazi. Grown men not fighting their own struggles but being mouth pieces for situations they could never understand. As him being a man. Do you think his perspective on the life of being a man is more accurate or important. Or his perspective on the life of being a fat women is more accurate or important?
 
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