Yoshimitsu Combo & Tech Trap Discussion

Not sure if anyone noticed this but even if not near wall, after CH iMCF>66B>DNK the 3B ender is blockable against Voldo and Viola. Lost me a few rounds from being punished stupidly for a "guaranteed" 3B by 66B BE. FC 3K after the DNK is an option in such situations since they'll most certainly try to block, though only for a couple of rounds. Not sure if this is restricted to them only but I've never had this problem with other characters before except in a wall combo.

On wall splat, 2A+BB>66A BE does not work on Tira and Pyrrha. Was testing that on 6K W!>2A+BB>66A BE>iMCF>8K W!>1K>G>a:B+K>2[A+B]~66. And if you try (aforementioned combo)>1K>2A+K for the lulz, well, it doesn't work. The suicide can be AC-ed unlike standard 1K>2A+K.

<edit: the combo works. I was testing it on a laggy TV so it messed up. Not worth it except for round-ending style points though, total damage (including suicide) is just 150+ due to scaling and you lose a huge chunk of your own>

Probably a lot of people utilize this already but if you anticipate or see a low, FLE K>DGF A+B is an awesome punish for big damage. DGF B>3B>etc works too but FLE K is really short and sweet, and going into DGF is slower than going into FLE. Destroys stuff like Natsu's UB bomb, Yoshimitsu's own 214A, Pyrrha's 236AA. Pretty worth it against a BS 2A+B-happy Voldo too (40+ vs 80+ dmg tradeoff), plus if you see wrongly and get hit by his BS K mid, he doesn't get to combo off it anyway since you're in TJ.
 
Yes, there's two sides to the coin.

If Yoshi gives health. Don't break the grab.
If Yoshi takes health. Break the grab.

Mind games basically haha.
 
The health steal grab is actually worse risk/reward since if they break correctly, it's like you got thrown. Normally, their throw break doesn't hurt you.

Also interesting about this throw is that it can never actually be broken -- so if you always want to stay in close and keep pressure up no matter what, it might be a good idea to use this throw. Remember, you're at +13 after the throw, whether it's broken or not. This is a better situation than +2 and far away, like a normal throw break.

If you can land iMCF after 4A then that option's pretty good for step killing, but keep in mind they can duck throw if they block the 4A.
 
^this. 6A btw lol. On CH it's guaranteed, but it's so easy to duck on neutral. I usually plug in a 6A, 3B and not 6[A] if I ever use it because most opponents who know this move flinch crouch. iMCF window is rewarding but pretty tight after 6[A], feels about as hard to do as JF 4AAAAA>iMCF actually.
 
You still get free damage after Soul Siphon as well... a:B+K still works, I like doing K just for the adv. then using the adv. for other set ups.

Im making a tech trap video soon, if anyone has any that they would like to be put in the video or think they personally found but just cant post them up let me know and Ill be sure to add it in as well as give some credit.

Its bout time we take an in depth look at what this character has to offer tech trap wise.
 
RedDjinn said:
You still get free damage after Soul Siphon as well... a:B+K still works, I like doing K just for the adv. then using the adv. for other set ups.

Im making a tech trap video soon, if anyone has any that they would like to be put in the video or think they personally found but just cant post them up let me know and Ill be sure to add it in as well as give some credit.

Its bout time we take an in depth look at what this character has to offer tech trap wise.
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It's time you add me to that clan of yours because I'm currently trying to get Yoshi down aside from Leixia. Bring a mic, your ego, and let us Yoshis spar. What say you?
 
Pocky-Yoshi said:
It's time you add me to that clan of yours because I'm currently trying to get Yoshi down aside from Leixia. Bring a mic, your ego, and let us Yoshis spar. What say you?
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LOL sounds good you were already in? Im sure you can make it back into our good graces... I dont play yoshi much anymore but I still like to do tech videos for him, hes good if someone doesnt know the match up but if they do its usually an uphill battle no matter what character your facing...

Id love to chat/battle though! send me a msg if you get time today on XBL and Ill add you up! L red djinn L

Oh and the EGO has been gone for like almost 2 years now, thats what being a daddy does for you LOL im much different now.
 
I did the health steal the other day and 4 out of 4 times I lost health (same round).. ghetto? Can the opponent influence which direction the health goes?
 
RedDjinn said:
LOL sounds good you were already in? Im sure you can make it back into our good graces... I dont play yoshi much anymore but I still like to do tech videos for him, hes good if someone doesnt know the match up but if they do its usually an uphill battle no matter what character your facing...

Id love to chat/battle though! send me a msg if you get time today on XBL and Ill add you up! L red djinn L

Oh and the EGO has been gone for like almost 2 years now, thats what being a daddy does for you LOL im much different now.
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My Pocky Yoshi profile is silver but add my alt RippCord007.
 
@djinn if you play on PSN one day, hit me up IGN FrizFroz. Though I'm in Singapore playing against the Shens for now, so I won't be able to play against you guys until I return to the states in August.
 
Frostheart said:
@djinn if you play on PSN one day, hit me up IGN FrizFroz. Though I'm in Singapore playing against the Shens for now, so I won't be able to play against you guys until I return to the states in August.
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Hows your yoshi fairing against those singaporean beasts?

Any chance on seeing some gameplay of you guys?
 
Dying against ShenChan & ShenYuan but the others are a-okay. Yeah we do have fortnightly tourneys on Fridays though I can't find the link... anyway we just had one a few hours ago but most of my matches weren't recorded as the camera was on the X360 and I play with a PS3 pad. In fact I got kicked to losers bracket by ShenChan, won the rest of the matches until I ran into ShenYuan in losers finals and then died there. Beastly duo. Will tell you if I find the link.
 
RedDjinn said:
Im making a tech trap video soon, if anyone has any that they would like to be put in the video or think they personally found but just cant post them up let me know and Ill be sure to add it in as well as give some credit.
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In the video could you show how the tech trap setups after launching into a:B+K works? I'm sick of having to explain it to people. I'm assuming you know about the step-forward deathcopter, 66A+B, deathcopter mixup? Other good options are 236B if they always to play dead to minimize the damage or step-in iFC3K if they always tech and JG the deathcopter. Be sure to show the options for a far launch, too. If you need me to lay everything out for you, let me know. In fact this might warrant a whole new video...
 
RedDjinn said:
You still get free damage after Soul Siphon as well... a:B+K still works, I like doing K just for the adv. then using the adv. for other set ups.
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Did you notide that K doesn't work on Raphael? but 6B connects on him for same damage and I think it's better that the simple K.

RedDjinn said:
if anyone has any that they would like to be put in the video or think they personally found but just cant post them up let me know and Ill be sure to add it in as well as give some credit.
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Hey, I think I found some good trap...

First (easy): 22_88K (if done at max range) 236B
only ukemi can avoid the unblockable.

Second (hard): 1B max after CH 2aB on the opponent side.
ex: CH aB+K 2aB 88 (left side step) 1B (+ 80/90/98 dmg)

Total for 122 to 140 dmg.
Maybe it's the best alternative trap to RCC 3B aB+K 8A+B/236B/66A+B/8A+B~4 (about 140~150 dmg)

If correctly done, the opponent has only two choices: immediately attack after iMCF or.. immediately Just Guard.



I didn't test the last combo a lot.
Let me know if it works well :)
thx
 
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