Leixia Q&A/General Strategy Thread

Can't the character interrupt the 22kA strings on block? That said, 22K/22kA is definitely a decent mix-up. Decent, not amazing.

The guts system is especially annoying for Leixia, given how many of her moves do less than 20 damage. Oh well, at least 66K bypasses it (<3 that move).
 
Can't the character interrupt the 22kA strings on block? That said, 22K/22kA is definitely a decent mix-up. Decent, not amazing.

The guts system is especially annoying for Leixia, given how many of her moves do less than 20 damage. Oh well, at least 66K bypasses it (<3 that move).

22K also bypasses guts. And if you hit with 22KA you get the full combo. that's the mixup. The 2 moves startup looks exactly the same and is impossible to react to.
 
Can't the character interrupt the 22kA strings on block? That said, 22K/22kA is definitely a decent mix-up. Decent, not amazing.

The guts system is especially annoying for Leixia, given how many of her moves do less than 20 damage. Oh well, at least 66K bypasses it (<3 that move).

I haven't tested it (and am away from my system) but I have never been interrupted during it.
 
It's possible to interrupt 22kAAAK (or whatever the string is) before the last hit for sure, and possibly after the first.
 
22kAAB_K can be 7_8_9A_B_K:ed by some characters. They'll TJ the low and just come out faster than the mid. As for 22kA and 22K being a mix-up, there's a 3 frame difference on start-up (22kA is slower). So you can block the low on reaction and immediately slide it to neutral guard. With perfect timing, you'll block whichever move Leixia pulls out.
 
22kAAB_K can be 7_8_9A_B_K:ed by some characters. They'll TJ the low and just come out faster than the mid. As for 22kA and 22K being a mix-up, there's a 3 frame difference on start-up (22kA is slower). So you can block the low on reaction and immediately slide it to neutral guard. With perfect timing, you'll block whichever move Leixia pulls out.

So you can react to 3 frames Fallen Angel? Good for you, no one else can.

Anyway I'll keep my optimistic thoughts and tricks for myself. This SA is a frickin shame for 8wayrun anyway. It's been ruined by scrubby players who have no room for improving their probably already low level.

Except for probably Kalas and Hyrul, I bet the rest of whiners are all bad.

Have a nice day.
 
So you can react to 3 frames Fallen Angel? Good for you, no one else can.

Anyway I'll keep my optimistic thoughts and tricks for myself. This SA is a frickin shame for 8wayrun anyway. It's been ruined by scrubby players who have no room for improving their probably already low level.

Except for probably Kalas and Hyrul, I bet the rest of whiners are all bad.

Have a nice day.
Fallen angel, Thernovator and AK nova Star need to get outttttttttttttttttttt! Their the only's so far I seen who just complain and complain.
 
So you can react to 3 frames Fallen Angel? Good for you, no one else can.
What part of my post mentioned blocking in 3 frames on reaction? I said that one can practice the act of blocking both low and mid on the same block. You start out blocking low and then slide into blocking mid. It's a 3 frame window, but it's doable, especially since 22K is slow enough to be blocked on reaction and 22kA is 3 frames slower. I've had people do the slide-block online. It's noticeable since you see then block crouching for a split-second.

I'm not saying the 22K/22kA mix-up is bad. But it's not as wonderful as some seem to think it is. Especially since some, including you, seem to advocate doing the full 22kAAB_K strings when they're unsafe and interruptable.

Anyway I'll keep my optimistic thoughts and tricks for myself. This SA is a frickin shame for 8wayrun anyway. It's been ruined by scrubby players who have no room for improving their probably already low level.
I don't see you making Top 10 at any tournaments using Leixia.

Denying Leixia's short-comings and exaggerating her strengths is actually more destructive than whining about her faults. You're perpetuating the lie that's she's anything but supbar. And who knows, it might contribute to Project Soul's continued insistence on making sure she remains Low Tier.
 
About 22kAAK/22kAAB, there is no real mixup in it, because 22kAA is -12. And no matter which follow-up you choose afterwards, every move that is faster than i13 will hit you out of it and punish you if you stop. Which is why I never go for a K/B-mixup... basically because it doesn't exist.
Also, is there any sense in using 22kAAB at all? Same setup as 22kAAK, but less damage and it doesnt ring out either. So why ever do 22kAAB instead of 22kAAK if it hits?
 
About 22kAAK/22kAAB, there is no real mixup in it, because 22kAA is -12. And no matter which follow-up you choose afterwards, every move that is faster than i13 will hit you out of it and punish you if you stop. Which is why I never go for a K/B-mixup... basically because it doesn't exist.
Also, is there any sense in using 22kAAB at all? Same setup as 22kAAK, but less damage and it doesnt ring out either. So why ever do 22kAAB instead of 22kAAK if it hits?

Bro, I'm mad people are still saying this. 22kAAK/22kAAB
is not the mixup it's terrible everybody knows this. The mixup is 22K and 22kA.

And about 22kAAB, yes there are some reasons to use it on hit. Near walls or edges it gives a better wakeup game as you are from crouching at the end. 2A is a techtrap for more than 60 damage. If they don't tech you can FC3B or 66K for free damage.
 
Bro, I'm mad people are still saying this. 22kAAK/22kAAB
is not the mixup it's terrible everybody knows this. The mixup is 22K and 22kA.

And about 22kAAB, yes there are some reasons to use it on hit. Near walls or edges it gives a better wakeup game as you are from crouching at the end. 2A is a techtrap for more than 60 damage. If they don't tech you can FC3B or 66K for free damage.

reptile don't get salty man, you have so much good advice in here. i love using your stuff. my roomate tilt quits vs my leixia after a bunch of matches, even when he's winning .. hehe.. i'm not the most talented but can still annoy the piss out of people with all these tricks. too bad ps3 netplay is awful.
 
Bro, I'm mad people are still saying this. 22kAAK/22kAAB
is not the mixup it's terrible everybody knows this. The mixup is 22K and 22kA.

Yes, I know that very well.
I was referring to the discussion of how to evade the list hit of the string (people we're talking about here) which is not even required for the reasons I've mentioned.


So you can block the low on reaction and immediately slide it to neutral guard. With perfect timing, you'll block whichever move Leixia pulls out.

Ha, I would love to see somebody using this "tactic".
 
I had no idea that was interruptable. I feel rather silly now. And it looks like punishers for the 22kAA will strait up stuff the K and B anyways.

This is disheartening. I was thinking you could train them to step the last hit then drop the last K and punish with AABE or some step killer... but they don't need to step, they can just hit you out of it.

I have no idea why this hasn't happened to me yet.

This is... disheartening.
 
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