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I actually dont think her frames have been updated in awhile so thats a good question...

Hey guys how do yall feel about using A:6 after a successful 2A+B or 4A+Ba launch? It seems like it gives her better oki but of course their is reduced dmg if you dont use the bomb drop... I see a lot of natsus doing this but I would like to know just how useful you guys thinkit is.
 
Also just noticed that you get a guaranteed PO A:6 after a B (K) 4 on block, of course her B (K) 4 can be interrupted pretty easily on reaction : p
 
I did a big overhaul to her frames a few days ago. It's pretty up to date and has a bunch of new stance frames and shit, though still not 100% complete.
 
If i do anything other the the air grab after 4 A+B or 2 A+B it's usually A+B ~ K2 I only do A:6 after a 3B or 11/77k in a combo. Aside from general punishes anyway.
 
So yeah, I have picked Natsu back up. And I'm wanting to know if any of her PO HOVER moves are good for a mix up and or wall combos?
 
HOV B and A are a mixup but can get gimmicky if you don't use them in the right places. I don't make much use of HOV mixups anymore personally. HOV B can be used to lead to a wall combo but doesn't wall splat on its own.
 
I can see the difference between hover a and b myself, but, like Harry said, even if you can't, if you don't do it in the right spot, most good players will either just backstep, run under, or GI. Still, that shouldn't stop you from experimenting with it. Also, I do believe that the fake hover is under-utilized and that it can cause your opponent to not be lame against the hover stuff. Only thing is that thing takes a keen mind, a good understanding of the game, and a good guess.
 
If GI is their answer to hover you can empty hover and punish their whiffed gi. Ill have to test to,see what you can fit in the window, it may just be a:6. If they don't gi, they are gonna be in that ass though.
 
- AAB
- A+B
- 66K
- 66AB
Can also use:
- 1A
- 3A
- PO A:6
- PO A

There are some others such as BBK, but the one's listed should suffice for the most part.
 
22_88A is multipurpose enough that it can used as an extremely safe stepkilling option too, especially in run-up situations if the opponent is anticipating 66B, 661K, or one of Natsu's other linear approach options. You can also use it to maintain a favorable axis, for example, if the opponent is trying to step counterclockwise away from the ring edge and you catch them with 668A, the tech step will keep you perpendicular to the edge.
 
Some new tech. Discouraging people from teching backwards after a:6, po a:6 and 66ab ch.

So people who know the natsu matchup know they can tech backwards and then jump a 2a+b to punish natsu. To discourage this near a wall or ring edge, you can ring out with an a+b tech trap or wall splat with FC a+b into a:6.

The FC a+b isn't as reliable simply because if the camera shifts at all, FC a+b might push them too far away to connect a:6.

When I hit an a:6 near the edge that is just a little to far away to ring out I usually go for 2a+b which is a good option, this a+b tech trap will now further discourage teching in that situation.
 
3A is good in some situations, it has a nice TC window so if you predict some kind of high you can 3A and get the CH... However it is kind of lame how you cant combo off of it on CH, although you may be able to create some kind of mixup since you are +9 on CH. It would be nice if natsu could use one of her i8 moves, but sadly I think CH 3A produces a crouching stun :(

Hey guys I showed up kind of late in this game, so I missed most of the tech about natsu discussed in this thread. I serriously got here around page 40 something, is it worth it to go back and read this whole thread?
 
There is a mix-up off 3A on CH. Throw them or 66B. If you catch your opponent using a tech step move like Ivy 3B, you can even get a back throw.
Also to answer your other question, as long as its not pre-patch info, it might be worth it to look back. There are certain things she could pre-patch that no longer apply
 
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