Casual vs. Scrubs

Do you think scrubs give casuals a bad name?

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HydroJames

HydroJames

Shining Sea Dragon
I wonder if the majority of casual player fought by the members were scrubs. It sometimes seems that "casual" seems to be an ugly stigma of some kind. I know that not all casuals are scrubs who try to get ring outs and grabs banned.

If I see my self as a casual player, I don't want ashamed of it. I am not tournament player who has the time and money to travel to tournaments. I just want to have fun with the game and want to have plenty of options for single/multi-player and local/online.

For me, it is scrubs who:
  • Give casual players a bad name.
  • Sour the game for other players.
  • Try to set bullshit rules to allow themselves easier wins.
I don't want casuals and scrubs to be treated the same.
 
HydroJamesAqua said:
I wonder if the majority of casual player fought by the members were scrubs. It sometimes seems that "casual" seems to be an ugly stigma of some kind. I know that not all casuals are scrubs who try to get ring outs and grabs banned.

If I see my self as a casual player, I don't want ashamed of it. I am not tournament player who has the time and money to travel to tournaments. I just want to have fun with the game and want to have plenty of options for single/multi-player and local/online.

For me, it is scrubs who:
  • Give casual players a bad name.
  • Sour the game for other players.
  • Try to set bullshit rules to allow themselves easier wins.
I don't want casuals and scrubs to be treated the same.
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Scrubs and Casuals are two different things imo. A Casual is just someone who casually plays. Probably has a wife and kids, just a slight hobby. Casuals will play but it's usually not in any serious form of competition. The etymology of the word scrub is little bit of an gray area. But in general, I feel the word scrub usually has an implication of someone who more involved than a casual. In most cases, someone who even competes, they are just really bad at what they do. It's also usually associated with someone who thinks they are also much better than they think they are. The word casual shouldn't really have any negative connotations to it unlike the word scrub.
 
Casuals and scrubs are completely separate to me also. Someone casual enjoys the games for the characters, story, music, etc. and plays occasionally.

A scrub would be someone who plays the game beyond the casual level and either complains/makes excuses for losses, refuses to learn the game properly, or displays some other scrub-like tendency.
 
HydroJamesAqua said:
I don't want casuals and scrubs to be treated the same.
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Try not to care about other people's opinion too much. Why would hardcore tournament people and/or tournament cheerleaders(aka online/offline people unable/trying to go offline) attack casuals for discussing about story? Unless they are in dire need of attention(trolls), they have no right to insult people different from them.

I understand you want to get along with everyone, but the truth is there will always be people you'll dislike. The only rhetorical question is: will you try to get along with them despite being treated harshly?
 
Its contextual really. The two terms are not mutually exclusive, as a scrub can be a casual player (,elative to more competitive players) that failed to "troubleshoot" their own short comings
 
I don't like either term really, as they're both ambigious. Especially the term "casual" is used with many different meanings and usually carry negative connotations. I've seen "casual" be used to describe: players who aren't tournament players, players who aren't good at the game, players who only care about story, players who destroy the SC community, players who destroy the SC franchise, and etc...

It's a bit funny as the counterpart to that (tournament players) is only ever used to describe one kind of player: someone who plays in tournaments. So I guess "casual" is used to describe literally everybody else.
 
I agree that scrubs and casuals are two different things; just like comparing complainers and whiners.
 
Casuals and scrubs are two completely different things.

A scrub is someone who is just bad at the game, but thinks otherwise.

The reason "casual" has such a negative connotation is because most casuals are fucking retarded, and can't seem to understand why. They give honest, not-retarded casuals a very bad light because so many of you seem to think that x game has bad story and is missing your favorite character, therefore it sucks and you should make a thread about it.

I have no problem with someone who wants great singleplayer content because they don't really care about playing competitively. Its just when they start bashing the game as a whole based on a part or submitting shitty ideas and getting mad their shitty ideas are shitty that I have a problem with.

And I seriously can't fucking stand it when a self-proclaimed casual feels the need to complain about balance. Oh, jesus christ fuck you.
 
The term casual gets a lot of heat because it's a fall back defense to explain away lousy play amongst other things, especially by scrubs.
 
Not sure if anyone else shares the same opnion as me, but I feel like scrubs are the kind of players that set rules for there lobbies so they have a excuse to kick you if you displease them in any way.

While in the other hand, casuals are the players who may set guidelines (like 3 win pass, creations only, or mics only) that have no real bearing on how good you are or what your rank is. Usually guidelines like these are set to help promote a more sociable room. I personally like using the 3 win pass when I set up a casual lobby just so that everybody gets chances to fight each other.

Granted people won't always follow the guidelines, but they are just guidelines and not built in took the game so it's not a big deal. The one I probably hate most is seeing rooms that say "no spam" when it should really say "if you beat me I'm going to kick you"
 
ca·su·al

A person who does something irregularly

scrub

Rub (someone or something) hard so as to clean them, typically with a brush and water.


In other words a scrub as a person is someone that tries to clean something with his smelly arse and makes everything else dirty with his smelly arse and everyone be like I've had enough of your smelly arse, stop it.
 
Are spammers and modders scrubs? or something entirely?


Casuals aren't anything like either of the above but a slur for anyone who apparently isnt allowed to like storymodes in their character oriented games.
 
I guess I like the best of both worlds (casual and competitive?), honestly. I love to play matches with other players whenever possible (SC sadly doesn't have offline tournaments in plano, because it gets rejected), and I enjoy story mode as well as other modes and content the Soul Calibur has to offer.
 
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DevilsDisguise said:
Are spammers and modders scrubs? or something entirely?


Casuals aren't anything like either of the above but a slur for anyone who apparently isnt allowed to like storymodes in their character oriented games.
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Spammer is a scrub word.

Project Bokuho said:
SC sadly doesn't have offline tournaments, because it gets rejected),
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So I gues Evo 2k12 & 2k13, NCR, SCR, TFC, CEO, FR, and NEC (not to mention all the other tournies I can't think of atm) never happened?
 
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