[ARCHIVE] Raph vs the World: Matchup Thread

Let's start compiling matchup info here, instead of scattering it around the whole forum. If you've posted some useful anti character strats somewhere else, feel free to grab those posts and copy them in here. I'll edit the top post periodically with good info. And by good info I mean well thought out and factually supported info, that GOOD shit.

KEEP NEGATIVE SHIT OUT OF THIS THREAD.
Take it to Raph GD or something, we've already made enough of a mess there as is. This thread is for solutions only. Something like "watch out for ______ against _____" or "_____ can give Raph trouble" is fine, as long as you've got some solutions in mind.

I will be deleting posts from here at my discretion if you didn't read the above, or read it and just didn't care.

VS Alpha Male Patroklos:

VS Aeon

VS Algol

VS Astaroth

VS Cervantes

VS Dampierre

VS Ezio Auditore de Firenze

VS Hilde

VS Ivy

VS Leixia

VS Maxi

VS Mitsurugi

VS Natsu

VS Nightmare

VS Patroklos

VS Pyrrha

VS Pyrrha Omega

VS Siegfried

VS Tira

VS Viola

VS Voldo

VS Xiba

VS Yoshimitsu

VS ZWEI

Against Siegfried, 22B every time he dares to 3(B).

What are your options if you wind up blocking a 3B? Which is probably going to happen at some point.

On block is what I meant. With Raph's step speed Siegfried digs himself a hole every time he tries to force a stance game off blocked 3(B).

So his horizontal options can't catch Raph steppin? I'll have to play around with that in training mode some, that's some good tech if we can beat all his options from that stance.

Kutsuki, one of the guys I've played with for years who actually got me into fighting games was a long time Taki and Siegfried player so I had to fight those match-ups in every game since SC2. We ran a set last night and Siegfried won precisely zero rounds out of 5 matches against Raph. If he does raw 3(B), he gets stepped and eats 22B half the time. If I happened to block it, then 22B avoids knees and hits him out of everything else he might do. I'm not sure what Siegfried can do except MAYBE use delayed B+K with some telepathy on the side?

Kuts plays Natsu and Siegfried in this game. One of those characters is a whore and forces me to use the same three moves and play around her game. The other is a washed up fighter looking at retirement. You get three guesses as to which is which and the first two don't count.

Btw I don't think Siegfried is a terrible character lol, it's just that he can't play around forcing stance games. There are simply too many ways for different characters to hurt him for it. He's a bit like Raph in this game where he has strong tools but gets punished for trying to be complicated with his unique gimmicky stuff. But this isn't about Siegfried, it's about how free he is if the other player wants to play him overly aggressive.

Good to know, I'll be sure to add that up to the Sieg section.

any advice on how to deal with tira's would be awesome.

Raph vs sieg...against 3B step and punish...when they'll finally start to use 3B,A remember you have an aGI for that even if you block first A hit
Never keep prep against him because wsB is dangerous :/

Raph vs nightmare....watch out for his 2k -.- and try fc3B to stop his mixups...if well timed it will stop everything he has...
Also he is full of highs you can duck under with 4B,BB BE...you can abuse that move against night at tip, watch out that you risk whiffing the combo due to range.
Watch out also for his 3AA that is fast.....very fast, yet its an easy matchup.
Again remember you have 4A+B that can used quite often on reaction and prediction against his stances.

raph VS mitsu....used to be one of best raph matchups, now mitsu gets more range than raph and the huge damage paired with safe 4B are a pain.
Fortunately most mitsu i met still try to shut down preps like scIV with FC1BB, but this time we got prep4 so we can safely use preps, but don t try them at short distance.

Vs XIBA: you know ... .-. i can t seem to win a match having guard broken at least once a round.

Mirror: this is an even matchup ("you don t say" meme goes here)....well fc3B means you cannot use preps.

Vs natsu: well you can punish all her stuff and even with your CE....watch out for damage, and remember that at range she will probably TC under your 66A so try to not stay to far from her.

Vs aeon: i am dumb i really cannot tell when this "guy" is crouched...also his awful hitbox makes it harder to hit with lows -.- expecially AB fortunately its still one of the weakest of the cast poke and punish him to death but watch out he will do the same.....so try to keep some distance to avoid his best pokes.

Has anyone looked into how 4A+B and B+K can be used to counter all the different BE's in the game? We need to put together a comprehensive list, it might make for some powerful defensive options for Raph's play style.

Homework for you guys, see if there's anything Raph has that can beat all of Xiba's 3B options. Test it in practice mode first before you post. Right now it seems like the block stun on 3B is good enough to keep anyone from having a universal interrupt, although the individual options are all punishable in their own way. Just gotta guess for now.

This is just my personal impressions, but regarding Pyrrha's 66B BE, it seems a lot harder to step successfully if she does a meaty version of this on wake-up and you block it late. Might be that the block stun activates late and that stuffs your window to move in time. In those situations 4A will still work and is our universal option.

BBB is not an issue....
But he has a jumping kick that is really nasty in the poking game, then decent low pokes and a couple of midrange headbutts (not those awful after he goes flying but moves more similar to sc4 liz). that are good against raph pokes.

i usually go for old style grab 33KBE mixup it does good really damage...
as i said i have problem poking the flying lizard...but it happens only in the hands of a friends who really has experience with it having spent many hours learning the matchup.

Also i think hudathan should be banned from this subforum until he changes avatar.

So i was practicing against xiba and it seems that 4B beats all his options out of remembrance. i tested all of this off a block 3 b which according to the guide is +6 if you cancel into REM. 4b will tc the AK for around 70, is slow enough to hit the K on its way down for around 70 and for some damn reason seems to make part of REM b whiff so that it counters it for around 64. To beat REM B you have to do 4b right after blocking 3b but i had it work pretty consistently and would love for someone else to test this.

I dont see why this wouldnt work on his other entrances into REM which put him at disadvantage or if he does it raw. also for some reason after 3b rem b while raphs 4b works his 1k dosnt which is weird seeing as how its faster

Also its my first post so im sry if i got the terminology wrong

Hey listen, not everyone can have awesome avatars like mine. Plus we haven't banned me for being a total shithead, so I don't think it's fair to ban him for repping crappy movies in his avy.