Balance Patch Community Vote

Discussion in 'Soulcalibur Tactics' started by Belial, May 31, 2012.

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    lobo Luminario

    SYSTEM CHANGES:

    1 AB
    2 A
    3 ABC
    4 A

    *i'd like to see an option to either decrease meter gain overall or to severely nerf 1 bar meter combos for half the cast.
    *i'd like to see options regarding step guard.
    *i'd like to see options regarding low attacks being made faster/slower to bring emphasis back to reaction as opposed to anticipation.
    *i'd like to see 7_8_9g made into an instant input as opposed to a hold input to jump.
    *i'd like to see the community input on many things that were edited out/deleted from the laughable, egotistical, elitist and extremely biased thread from which these suggested changes came.
    *i'd like to see buffering windows tightened so that my 662b comes out as 8WR 2b_22b 100% like previous games as opposed to 66b half the time due to crazy big buffer windows.

    CHARACTER CHANGES

    5 *see below*
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    5-66 NO

    what i really want are system changes, not character changes. we do not know what basic system changes will do to balance. altering it before testing it is unwise.
    lobo, May 31, 2012
    #21
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    Belial King of Hundred Swords

    PSN:
    SgtKrabco
    lobo the time for discussion is over, you had your say in "Balance Patch Discussion Thread". No more adding to the list, sorry.
    Belial, May 31, 2012
    #22

  3. Hawkeye Road 2 EVO!!!

    PSN:
    Tokyo1220
    XBL:
    ili Hawkeye ili
    No to all...
    Hawkeye, May 31, 2012
    #23
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  4. Hot Rod Dave "Saucy saucy minx"

    XBL:
    X HotRodDave X
    no to all.

    or do I not count cause Im not a high level tourney player?
    Hot Rod Dave, May 31, 2012
    #24
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  5. DeathInMyEyes [10] Knight

    PSN:
    DeathInMyEyes
    I'm honestly surprised no one suggested having step G buffed to around -15, instead of -20.
    DeathInMyEyes, May 31, 2012
    #25
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  6. acefrost [10] Knight

    PSN:
    AceFrost
    XBL:
    AceFrost xx
    1.a
    2.a
    3. No

    4.No
    ------------------------------------------
    Alpha Patroklos
    5. a
    6.a,b,c
    7a,c
    8.a,b
    Aeon
    9.No
    10.No
    11. No
    Algol
    12.a,b
    13.a,b
    14. a
    Astaroth
    15. a
    16.a
    17.a,b,c
    Cervantes
    18.a,b,c,d
    19.a,b
    20.a,b
    21.a
    Dampierre
    22. a,b,d
    23. a,b
    Ezio
    24.no
    25.no
    26.no
    Hilde
    27.a
    28.a
    Ivy
    29.a,b,c
    30.no
    31.no
    Leixia
    32.no
    33.a
    34.no
    35.no
    Maxi
    36.no
    37.a,b
    Mitsurugi
    38.a,b
    39. a,b,c,d
    Natsu
    40. a,b
    41.a,b
    42.a,b,c
    Nightmare
    43.a,b
    Patrokolos
    44.a,b,c
    45. a
    46.a
    Pyrrha
    47.a,b,c
    48.a,b
    Pyrrha Omega
    49.NO
    50.NO
    51.NO
    Raphael
    52.No
    53.No
    Siegfried
    54.no
    55. no
    Tira
    56.no
    57. no
    58.a
    Viola
    59.a,b,c
    60. a
    61. a
    Voldo
    62.no
    63. a
    Xiba
    64.a,b
    Yoshimitsu
    65. a
    ZWEI
    66.no
    acefrost, May 31, 2012
    #26

  7. Tofma [02] Apprentice

    I'll do this for the heck of it. Though honestly I find most of these changes silly.
    1.NO
    2.NO
    3.NO
    4.a

    CHARACTER CHANGES

    5.NO
    6.NO
    7.NO
    8.NO
    9.NO
    10.NO
    11.No
    12.NO
    13.NO
    14.NO
    15.NO
    16.NO
    17.NO
    18.NO
    19.NO
    20.NO
    21.NO
    22.NO
    23.NO
    24.NO
    25.NO
    26.NO
    27.NO
    28.NO
    29.NO
    30.NO
    31.NO
    32.NO
    33.NO
    34.NO
    35.NO
    36.NO
    37.NO
    38.NO
    39.a
    40.NO
    41.NO
    42.NO
    43.NO
    44.NO
    45.NO
    46.NO
    47.NO
    48.NO
    49.NO
    50.NO
    51.NO
    52.a
    53.NO
    54.b
    55.NO
    56.NO
    57.NO
    58.NO
    59.NO
    60.NO
    61.NO
    62.a
    63.NO
    64.NO
    65.NO
    66.NO
    Tofma, May 31, 2012
    #27
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    Belial King of Hundred Swords

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    Belial, May 31, 2012
    #28
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  9. SBA TFNA

    PSN:
    badass99
    Why are you trying to nerf Hilde C2B? Do you kno how hard it is to get that to connect? That damage is EARNED. Guys, not everyone needs to be patched. Nerf the really silly stuff, buff the really bad stuff, but leave the GOOD characters alone.

    if it aint broke, dont fix it
    SBA, May 31, 2012
    #29
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  10. WhYYZ [05] Battler

    XBL:
    Reflex WhYYZ
    SYSTEM CHANGES:
    Still think we should wait for EVO. Except for 39. It remains one of the most broken parts in the game and everyone that voted NO has lost credibility as a SCV player.
    WhYYZ, May 31, 2012
    #30

  11. AZYG4LYFE [10] Knight

    PSN:
    AZYG4LYFE
    I've placed my votes in the spoiler below, I won't post my concern on some of the options, but I feel a little unsteady, but overall cool with this, (if there is a place I can express my concern with this, show me) and I hope this goes well as a whole. So all the best for the future patch!

    EDIT: After a days thought, I have to be honest and let it down, leave 623B alone, it's already random, making it unsafer is just not the way to go, I'd rather leave it untouched.

    Option A, get rid of it, Option B, taking a second read, this is not necessary, you get a simple 84 damage from a bnb combo and 104 damage if you get lucky twice...reducing the combo damage...not feeling it, I'd rather it just be left alone.

    AZ
    AZYG4LYFE, May 31, 2012
    #31
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    Kane oh riri

    just going over this ... looked at the alpha pat section:

    7. FCa:B (Just Frame Twister)
    a) Decrease damage
    b) Increase tracking against left tech in 2xJFT combos
    c) Remove "hit grounded" property

    B and C don't make sense. if you remove the "ground" hitting property of JFT, then 2x JFT combos will not work.
    Kane, May 31, 2012
    #32

  13. Maxou [10] Knight

    B) is a buff. JF Twister into JF twister combo is kinda impossible to do at tournament level. Or even in free play if opponent tech left. A 2A BE slide for JFTwister would be great. But of course, this buff can be implented only and ONLY if JF Twister damage is reduced. Something along the lines of 33~35dmg JF Twister would be great IMO.
    C) is a nerf. A bad one at that IMO.
    Maxou, May 31, 2012
    #33

  14. andur [10] Knight

    My votes would be as follows:

    SYSTEM CHANGES:
    1 NO
    2 A
    3 B
    4 NO
    CHARACTER CHANGES
    Alpha
    5 A
    7 C
    Algol
    11 A
    12 A
    13 A
    14 A
    Cervantes
    18 B
    19 A
    20 NO
    21 A
    Ezio
    24 A
    Hilde
    27 A
    Leixia
    32 A
    33 NO
    34 A
    Mitsurugi
    38 NO
    Natsu
    40 A
    41 B
    42 NO
    Nightmare
    43 A
    Patroklos
    44 A
    45 NO
    Pyrrha
    47 A
    48 B (I'm puzzled with this one, 22K 236B:4 NH is 85 dam, a CH doesn't let you do anything different, so this would be an overall 22K damage reduction)
    Pyrrha Omega
    49 A
    50 A
    51 NO
    Raphael
    52 A
    Siegfried
    54 B
    55 A
    Viola
    59 AB
    60 A
    61 NO
    Voldo
    62 A
    Yoshimitsu
    65 NO
    Zwei
    66 D
    andur, May 31, 2012
    #34
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    Kane oh riri

    hi maxou

    actually I was quoting belial's original post. I personally think that alpha pat needs no changes.
    Kane, May 31, 2012
    #35

  16. crow_winters [10] Knight

    SYSTEM CHANGES:

    1 NO
    2 NO
    3 NO
    4 NO

    CHARACTER CHANGES

    5 a
    6 c
    7 c
    8 a
    9 NO
    10 a
    11 a
    12 NO
    13 a
    14 NO
    15 a
    16 NO
    17 NO
    18 ab
    19 b
    20 NO
    21 a
    22 NO
    23 NO
    24 a
    25 a
    26 a
    27 a
    28 NO
    29 NO
    30 NO
    31 NO
    32 NO
    33 a
    34 a
    35 a
    36 NO
    37 NO
    38 a
    39 NO
    40 NO
    41 NO
    42 b
    43 NO
    44 NO
    45 NO
    46 NO
    47 NO
    48 a
    49 c
    50 NO
    51 NO
    52 ab
    53 a
    54 b
    55 NO
    56 NO
    57 NO
    58 a
    59 c
    60 NO
    61 NO
    62 a
    63 NO
    64 NO
    65 NO
    66 ad
    crow_winters, May 31, 2012
    #36
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    WuHT Premium Moderator

    PSN:
    Trolt
    SYSTEM CHANGES:

    1 a) No
    1 b) No

    2 a) No
    2 b) No

    3 a) No
    3 b) Yes
    3 c) Yes

    4 a) No
    4 b) Yes

    CHARACTER CHANGES

    52 a) Yes
    52 b) Yes

    53 Yes

    I'm unqualified to vote/comment on other characters
    WuHT, May 31, 2012
    #37

  18. MKHSpartan [09] Warrior

    XBL:
    MKH Spartan
    System:

    1a yes
    1b yes

    2a no
    2b yes

    3a yes
    3b unsure
    3c unsure

    4a yes
    4b unsure

    18 yes
    19 yes
    20 yes
    21 yes

    24 yes
    25 yes
    26 yes

    32 yes
    33 yes
    34 yes
    35 yes

    38 yes
    39 yes

    42b yes

    44b yes

    52 yes
    53 yes

    54 yes please...
    55 yes this too...

    63 yes

    64 yes

    65 yes

    66 yes definitely...
    MKHSpartan, May 31, 2012
    #38

  19. NGKrush [02] Apprentice

    SYSTEM CHANGES:

    1
    2
    3
    4

    CHARACTER CHANGES

    5a
    6ab
    7abc
    8b
    9a
    10
    11
    12 NO
    13 NO
    14 NO
    15
    16 a
    17 a
    18 bd
    19 b
    20
    21
    22
    23
    24 a
    25 a
    26 a
    27
    28
    29 a
    30
    31
    32
    33 a
    34
    35 a
    36
    37
    38 ab
    39
    40
    41
    42
    43 ab
    44 a
    45
    46
    47 a
    48
    49 ac
    50
    51
    52 ab
    53
    54 ab
    55
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    62 a
    63
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    65 a
    66 abcd
    NGKrush, May 31, 2012
    #39

  20. Norik [13] Hero

    XBL:
    Dark Khill
    I think you guys are trying way too hard, there will be NO PATCH before EVO, there can't be. And this is also too many changes, most of which are unnecessary nerfs. I only agree with four things in this whole list:

    - Decrease pushback for Siegfried's 2KKKKK
    - Increase overall Leixia damage.
    - Increase poke damage for Aeon.
    - Remove hit grounded property for alpha's FCa:B.

    On top of that, I'd add a few little things:

    - Increase Yoshimitsu's overall damage.
    - Make all of Siegfried's autoGI's effective against all verticals and horizontals.
    - Give Leixia back her stun properties for Natural 6KK.
    - Slightly longer autoGI frames for Leixia.
    - Decrease damage for Nightmare's GS B.
    - Increase damage for Hilde's 3A.

    That's about it. I think you people want too many unnecessary changes, the game is already decent
    Norik, May 31, 2012
    #40
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