Most useless move

isn't there one after TaS AA, I remember reading it was a tech trap or something. obviously after counterhit

Just do 236:B after TAS AA

wouldn't 1AA do more damage though? Obviously its a gimmick since they can just stay down, but I'm curious.

dude, hold the phone. 66A is a mid too, which means both are "anti-ducking"

I prefer 66A over 66B because my 66B gets sidestepped a lot..

Why do I even bother explaining the obvious..

Yes, but Sophitia's is hit confirmable between NH and CH - a good player won't make the mistake of following through on NH =/

It would do if it is a tech trap, but nobody is going to get up if the opponent doesn't 236:B as the only sort of move that will get you when grounded you won't be able to deal with on reaction is something like 1K... Considering the garunteed damage passed up if they don't 236:B you, its pretty obvious they're going for some sort of tech trap to try for more...

If I SEE my opponent is already sidestepping, of course I'm not gonna 66B! ( I might consider 236B, as it has SOME tracking, but not much)

I'm talking situations where I start 66B, and they my opponent STARTS sidestepping right after my move begins..Non-conventional sidestepping comes to mind, like 2_8 B+K (Sieg), or CASS B+K. Most of the time, I'm still getting regular-side stepped.

About 66B being only -2 on block... Doesn't seem plausible esp if characters like AMY and TAKI and always punishing me for it, ( and yes, my finger is on the block button immediately after 66B, and I still get punished).

Can anyone confirm that 66B is -2? Just doesn't seem right to me.

Prove it.....

Tira JS B+K. Sure it has some competition, but c'mon. You're not going to get that aGI, you're just not. The attack you let yourself get hit by exceeds the damage threshold for the move, has a follow up before the aGI, or shit I don't know, the game kills you out of spite for using a useless move. It's not even a taunt move, it's a "please kill me for I am suicidal when I'm in a good mood" move ;_;

I'm seeing some niche use for just about every other move folks have listed that I can think of off the top of my head, save for Raphael's teleport. I think it's a tie between those two >_>

Talim's 7k and 8k.

8k gives a little more damage than 7k, they are exactly the same move.

Pointless as hell.

I've seen zero effect use those quite often and have it turn out well. I think those are her fastest tech jump frames.

They are good for TJ, but ZE and I have 2 totally different play styles, so I can actually see him pulling it off better. He also stated in the Talim guide that there really is no use for the move.

66B is infact -2 on block

Don't know imputs, but most moves where Yoshi tries to kill himself, although I guess that they may be useful sometimes

Don't remember this, but it sounds horrible

So Yoshi officially has worst moveset?