Discussion in 'Nightmare' started by Tiamat, Nov 2, 2011.
Question about 2B+K (the non-BE version). When should this move be used?
The non-BE? Really, never. I sometimes use it to psyche my opponent out, they duck or freeze up expecting the quake. But that isn't a reliable tactic at all.
hi guys...im really interested in learn to use nightmare......i want advices from experienced nightmare players, like, what his best tools?, what things i have to learn from nightmare first?
thanks in advance ;)
I'd just started learning NM too, because the patch killed Tira and replaced her with a badly made clone.
Anyway, i found these two threads very helpful, study them well.
Nightmare Guide for SCV
Nightmare Combos & Tech Traps
how do you combo agA from 66B and GS B? I see I can buffer the 1st A before the move recovery ends, but it's really hard to time the inputs, should I not do it and just use agA normally instead?
The visual cue I usually use for 66B is when the enemy starts falling down after the launch, and slightly later than that for GS B. Also, you cannot whiff the agA by doing it too fast, so if you just strive to do the agA as early as you can, it should connect. I usually also do NOT buffer just the 1st A before the move recovery ends, and instead just do agA normally. Probably the whole agA is buffered when I do it.
GS B > agA, other than right side RO, can be used for wallsplats when it's either too close to do GS B > GS B > GS K BE, or when you don't have the meter for GS K BE.
66B > agA, other than right/front side RO, can be used for wallsplats if the wall is somewhat to your front/right. 66B > iagA deals 5 more damage, without clean hit, compared to 66B > 3(B).
noob nightmare question, what if I accidentally entered nightmare side stance from an attack which was blocked by the opponent, and the opponent was about the counter attack? NSS K is pretty fast but it's ineffective against tech crouchs. NSS B seems good though.
this is why I am uncertain about learning character with stances because if I accidentally entered a stance with no defensive options while I am on disadvantage, I'd be punished pretty bad.
ah, I am still stuck on the basics, haven't even considered wall moves yet
Honestly I don't even use that move period. Brave edge or not, I tossed that move in the gutter a long time ago
You can still block from stance it just takes a lot longer. The thing about stance characters (I also play Siegfried) is that stance transitions only become "safe" if your opponent doesn't know what your going to do.
NM's NSS K is a good example of what I'm talking about. If they anticipate that fast kick, they will not try to punish/interupt it. This is when you can do the other stance moves that are slower and interuptable, because now your in his head, he's already on the defensive.
Also, don't be afraid to block from stance as well. Chances are they are anticipating you to do something, so even though block from stance takes forever, it often works because they think a move is coming and they're most likely holding block anyway.
It's the same with GS (grim stride). I consider GS a "stance" even though it's not stereotypically called one.
Oh god. Nightmare won another major.
Get ready for the shitstorm my brethren!
They played with the non-patched version, that's why :)
Any replays somewhere for MLG btw ?
Keev? Or you? :D
Nightmare still has a good shot in the patched version. Believe me, he's still pretty damn hard.
Yeah, Keev, and NoFaceKiller just won the NCR grand finals with Nightmare.
noface is the most rushdown nightmare I have seen in this game. he just runs up and grabs you constantly lol
That's patched right?
MLG was pre-patch, NCR was post-patch.
Either way I think today proved that Nightmare is way too broken, and he needs to be nerfed and banned. Not one or the other, both. This character is way too good to even exist in this game. I plan on writing Namco and having them lock him on the character select screen so no one will ever have to go to the lab with Nightmare.
(good job Keev and NFK)
Yeah the glitch was not patched out. Damnit Namco, who do you get to play test your games?!
LOL, that glitch cant be fixed i think, cuz scrubs will ever cry with arguments full of nonsense instead of learn how to be better players
wondering about this too, ain't paying MLG to watch that stream
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