Casual Players

the first thing you learn about online is rank does not equal skill...I've beaten plenty of A1's with thousands of wins easily and I'm terrible
 
Ranks in SCV are bollocks anyway, since quite a lot of players don't bother with ranks, so they stay on E5 or try Ranked a few times. So players with over 1000 hrs can still be rank E, which is rubbish. So I always look at playtime, that's more accurate to guess the players skill or at least experience.
 
yes, but the point still remains, mere 20 hours playing and the guy is beating the crap of people with more than 800 hours of play left and right with zero defeats? woud n't you at least think something does n't fit?
 
You can't win 'em all. Your perceived skill level does not protect you from anyone, even if you were largely considered to be the best player out there. The worst thing you can do is tell yourself that you're better than people who beat you. Mainly because it doesn't matter, since obviously whatever they did worked.

On the topic of casual players, people can play the game however they want lol. Casuals are like 97% of the sales, anyway.
 

This Maxi isn't really a casual, but at the time it was the only one that came close to being a casual. Maybe it will be of use still :p -edit I was also missing a ton of a:B+K :/
 
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Lazy Garou said:
other thing you can consider is: You're Not playing against real casuals, but pros with like 6 or seven different accounts who have experimented different ways of playing with acharacter. (They show up a lot in global colosseo)
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I can confirm that this isn't the case, as I can clearly tell the difference between a casual and a pro player by how they position, block, jf, jg, poke, mixups etc.
 
Yoko said:

This Maxi isn't really a casual, but at the time it was the only one that came close to being a casual. Maybe it will be of use still :p -edit I was also missing a ton of a:B+K :/
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When you JG, especially those BEs, often you have more than enough meter. Get in the habit of CE punishing.

I counted at least 8 missed CE opportunities from that aspect alone.

Your control over Yoshi seems good though, I'm sure you'll get it. :)
 
BloodyTigerRoar said:
When you JG, especially those BEs, often you have more than enough meter. Get in the habit of CE punishing.

I counted at least 8 missed CE opportunities from that aspect alone.

Your control over Yoshi seems good though, I'm sure you'll get it. :)
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Ty for your support, I didn't think about CE punishing but I will now. I've noticed that I don't really pay attention to the enviroment (Meter included) so when I get a wall/ringout opportunity I usually miss it. I'll think about these things in my following matches :p
 
Ok so atm, still in Greece and on my phone so I won't be able to give a detailed assessment
Overall yoshi play is good and adaptation is clearly there in your game plan...however I see you missing vital whiff punishment opportunities as well letting maxi get away with easy-to-interrupt strings on top of not using the correct punishment after jg's
 
ZER0 said:
Ok so atm, still in Greece and on my phone so I won't be able to give a detailed assessment
Overall yoshi play is good and adaptation is clearly there in your game plan...however I see you missing vital whiff punishment opportunities as well letting maxi get away with easy-to-interrupt strings on top of not using the correct punishment after jg's
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Yeah that seems to be a major problem I have, as BloodyTigerRoar also mentioned it. So far as I know 3b punishment is very common, as well as 6k and CE, but sometimes I'll just not punish at all or do iFC3K which isn't even followed up by RCC 3b. One thing about the Maxi strings is that he can put in a GI whenever he feels like it, which makes it kinda risky to try to punish but you are right, I should interrupt them, atleast with like a 2k or something that doesn't get GI'd.
 
You need to learn the specific strings to punish. There are certain spots where he can GI, but often your punish will get there first. Unless you are a meme character like ZWEI, most of his string nonsense is punishable, but not all.
 
For example, Maxi's 6A is effectively -13 on block. Anything i13 or faster is guaranteed.
 
This is little bit of topic but I feel like it can slip. I've seen alot of -11 -15 -21 etc. I am guessing they are frames so for example - Yoshi's iMFC is an i11 so that would be able to interrupt anything Maxi would do after 6a, am I right?
 
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So I played around in training a little bit and noticed that I could basically interrupt everything Maxi did with iMCF/2a with a few exceptions. Maxi's 4bbk is faster than iMCF therefor it's impossible to interrupt it but you can still punish him as Yoshi by doing FC and then you have some options for punish. Sorry my bad I'm straying from the topic m_ _m
Either way about the Ezio game, I threw some rounds towards the end. What did I do to get killed like that? I can't quite pinpoint what I did wrong except sometimes I just stood there doing nothing, and it's pretty self explanatory that he's a casual. I aware I'm not familiar with the Ezio matchup but I'm pretty sure he's not so familiar with Yoshi matchups either. pls help
 
Yoko said:
So I played around in training a little bit and noticed that I could basically interrupt everything Maxi did with iMCF/2a with a few exceptions. Maxi's 4bbk is faster than iMCF therefor it's impossible to interrupt it but you can still punish him as Yoshi by doing FC and then you have some options for punish. Sorry my bad I'm straying from the topic m_ _m
Either way about the Ezio game, I threw some rounds towards the end. What did I do to get killed like that? I can't quite pinpoint what I did wrong except sometimes I just stood there doing nothing, and it's pretty self explanatory that he's a casual. I aware I'm not familiar with the Ezio matchup but I'm pretty sure he's not so familiar with Yoshi matchups either. pls help
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Well, that particular Ezio player doesn't seem to be all that great. He's doing a lot of things you could easily exploit. For example the dude is just yolo'ing 66BB which is both punishable on block and steppable. You could definitely be cheesing this guy super hard.

Regarding your approach to the match, a few things:

at :50 I think DNK would have rang him out there. Might be wrong about the range but that looks like it'd work.

Round 3 - You did a few nice Just Guards on 66BB, but you're better off stepping the second hit. You also didn't actually punish. Also, be aware of when the second hit of 4KB hits since DNK combos there. You also tried to punish a grab with a grab which is a big no-no. You lost the round for that. Aside from that just some general poor whiff punishment here and there.

Round 4 - Randomly whiffing BB = get hit by 66BB. Remember that every button has a consequence. You missed another grab punish too, you should practice that. Also, I'm not sure how some people feel about it, but I wouldn't ever throw out 6K unless I was sure it would hit. That move is high and ridiculously negative. Once again, you tried to punish a grab with a grab and he kills you for it.

Round 5 - Not much to say about this round. You may have been able to get a ringout off that 22B but I don't think so. However, I'm pretty sure the only reason that CE hit is simple because he didn't block it lol. Wake up CE is not the best strat out there. However, those are the kinda cheesy things that beat players like this.

Overall, your execution is pretty good. I think just playing more in general and getting that experience in is really all you need. Being able to read players is a huge part of SC. There's a saying that goes something like "play the player, not the character". If you can manage to get a handle on their general technical knowledge of the game, their habits, things that put them on tilt etc then you can beat them. Of course, the better the player the harder it is to get reads on them like this. It's basically just chess with swords Kappa
 
Yeah I missed a ton of ringout opportunities with DNK as I'm not very aware of the map (I have a hard time focusing on more than 1 thing). Also the fact that I sometimes just pull risky moves straight out of my ass isn't really a good thing either. I've been trying to stop my habit of punishing grabs with grabs but that's surprisingly more difficult than I thought. Ty for your response o/
 
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