I can't take it anymore...

HolyForce

HolyForce

I will show you...
Lately, my employer has me working with many Japanese clients. Sometimes it's just stupid. First, like yesterday evening for example, I wasn't home until 11pm because I was in a conference call with them. They are so incredibly f'in stupid, it's not even funny. It's not even a language barrier - they are just stupid. I have to go to Tokyo next month so I guess I need to get my squid-sucker on because they don't have jack shit to eat over there.

WHY THE FUCK DO PPL LIKE JAPAN?
 
Look on the bright side. You're not likely to be attacked on the street in Japan.
 
What do you do, Holy-dood-Force-god-man-person-guy?

A plus to the bright side: Japanese aren't weeaboos like half of my friends. T_T
 
iKotomi said:
Worked with Americans much? I think about 80% of humans on earth are pretty stupid.
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Probably not 80%. I don't know how you can judge either way with say an african tribe or something of the sort which lowers the possilbe people that are stupid down by a lot. But yea.. its not just japan...its EVERYWHERE. And they have fast food in Japan man! lol. So just get some sake and a big mac. Also, they have a lot of cooked fish too....lol. And get a good cut of kobayashi beef or something with a nice wine (or beer...I like beer too..lol). So there is shit to eat there as much as there is to eat over in the states (just a lot more weird stuff...).

Maybe you'll enjoy the trip more than you think. Or find some chick over there like in Lost in Translation (decently good movie).
 
C'mon man it's kinda unfair to base your opinion on just a couple of business meetings. Especially when the business culture in Japan has quite a few intricate etiqoettes. Professional life has a much stronger hierarchical structure than most western cultures in my opinion. Either way, I lived there for a half a year and I made a lot of good friends there. Almost everyone is really helpful and polite. But as with any culture you can only really see how they are after you've gone through that superficial layer (and from my experience, they are great). Of course there are bastards and dumb people everywhere, but I think you're being a tad unfair in light of frustration.

Lol, just registered. This is probably not the best way to make my first post. I've been reading 8wayrun a lot. My main is Ivy, nice to meet you all.
 
Um... dude you do realize there are stupid people everywhere right?(not just Japan or USA they're everywhere)besides how many foreigners do you think had to come to the states to talk business? I sure half of them thought Americans were stupid.
 
HolyForce said:
WHY THE FUCK DO PPL LIKE JAPAN?
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Don't be bashing Japan, my man. Without Japan, you wouldn't even be on this forum.

Please keep in mind when dealing with Japanese businessmen that their business interactions are very bound by etiquette. For example, you will find that they will very seldom say 'no', as it is considered to be rude. More often than not, they will suggest alternatives or respond with a 'yes' when they clearly mean the opposite.

EXAMPLE: My personal experience at a Japanese train station.

Me (to the ticket vendor): Hello, I'd like to catch the next train to Tokyo.
Vendor: Oh, but wouldn't you much rather go to Kyoto instead?
Me: Um, no, I'm headed for Tokyo.
Vendor: Are you sure? Because Kyoto is very nice this time of year.
Et cetera...

You get the idea. After about 6 minutes I finally managed to find out that I couldn't take the train to Tokyo from that station.

In short, just keep in mind that what you interpret as them being stupid may very well be a manners thing rather than an intelligence thing.

Here's a page with some good explanations and pointers. Best of luck.
 
you know, i can relate, i really can. except replace japanese with korean people and there you go. and it's not so much as I hate them it's just... korean people seem to take themselves too seriously. being in seoul, it's nice but it's very how should i put it... without soul? I also used to like the chinese language... but coming to korea... changed that. I hate the chinese language now. with a passion. Chinese women sound like spider monkeys screamin high in the trees. and at all hours of the day too. i'm not trying to hear the usual gossip that women talk about at 6 in the morning. i don't want to hear it outdoors, not indoors, and definetly not screamed out so damn loud i can hear you from across the hallway. That's just not something i'm down with. and it just got to the point where I learned how to say fuck you in chinese just so i can scream that out whenever the monkey shit starts up.

Konglish is another thing. and yes, american konglish and korean konglish are different. american konglish is english spoken with an asian accent. Korean Konglish is korean spoken as english. not to mention that koreans can't make western food to save their lives. not their fault though, some ingredients aren't sold here, but an enchilada shouldn't taste like Kimchi soup. and at the same time, a taco is sold for 3 to 4000 won. one taco.... so it's also pricey as fuck.... so nasty and expensive... that's what i got to work with.. but korean food, tastes good and inexpensive, but I'm not up for korean food everyday of my life for breakfast lunch and dinner. I was raised with variety and am spoiled. even though i was raised with rice and kimchi as my staple meal. (yes, i am half korean and half puerto rican.)

and the "when in rome" comment really fucking irritates me. it's probably expected from all foreigners regardless of where they are or where they're going, but damn it if it pisses me off to no end, because people seem to expect me to get, understand and be capable of doing all aspects of their culture overnight and it happens so much so that it makes me really want to throw laptops at people. also people seem to think that just because I understand something, they expect me to condone it, allow it and cosign on it, and then they catch an attitude when i don't, they simply think i don't understand, because if i did, i wouldn't mind it, but that's just not the case. or the random mean mugs i catch just for standing in a subway (train and or platform) listening to music. and don't get me started on the random (behind the back whispers) yeah.. that shit bugs me too.

so yeah, i think koreans overall take themselves too seriously. and the Old people just get all sorts of respect just for being old aspect of life... really does piss me off. cause these fuckers think they can do whatever and get away with it simply because they're old. stupid Confucius and his way of thought. irritating.

you know, i used to think i was open minded. but coming here, i realized i'm closed minded on many things. and because i'm a stubborn bastard, i don't plan on making changes. because i'm brash, i can openly tell people here they smell like wet dog. and i can confess to my professor that he pissed me off to the point of me barely able to constrain my rage, because his idiocy knew no bounds. and I swear, the phrase

"Boy, have you lost your mind?!?! Cause I will help you find it!"

really does apply to many korean people. and I find my patience limit constantly being tested, weakened, stressed and is getting shorter by the day.

but ask me if i regret coming to korea, and I'll say heartily and with a huge smile, "FUCK NO! BEST DECISION OF MY LIFE!!!" and truly mean it. and truly, it has been probably one of the best things to happen to my life.

I'm just a complainer.

still i can relate with you holy force.. i really can.
 
So... Japanese people just can't say no, huh?

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I can just see a travel agent suggesting it for a sex offender. :D
 
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