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Um i would prefer if there go back to being bad....yep ima get lots of hate for that...right now there too good and astaroth and ivy are not even the weakest or low mid tier chars in this game. Astaroth CE makes me (rage)

They are really just stupid in general IMO. Very difficult to nerf or buff. Straight up poorly designed.

Yeah next sc game they should be no CE throws.....

No, JG is the single dumbest concept in this world. You can JG out of ukemi, whiffed GIs, and it's a braindead way out of frame disadvantage with no risk involved. You can even buffer JG...

meh grab CE's are dumb too. Oh yeah solo someone just guarded my yoshi deathcopter (8A+B) when I hit them with 3B and parting thrust when they were still on the ground lol

JG is broken.

They are both really silly mechanics.

I want a new sc game now :/ bad enough I rage at this..lol

Bad enough my playstyle is voided by the mechanics.

I do too! But in the meantime all I got is this lol. And DOA 5 when it comes out.

And i think the move set designs in sc5 dictate too much how you play a character.

I actually think Sieg's frame traps are better than ever, too bad JG gets in my way.

I find command grabs more annoying because of how instantly game-changing they are (that, and it's unbreakable), but that's just me.