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ZeroBeat
ZeroBeat
not depressing once you get used to it, it just becomes another fact of life
Dab_Of_Oppo
Dab_Of_Oppo
I'm not christian, or Buddhist or anything, but I will not deny culture needs its mythos.
ZeroBeat
ZeroBeat
i mean im not some depressed shut in, i just learn to work with the time ive got and not focus on nihilistic feelings
Dab_Of_Oppo
Dab_Of_Oppo
Not pointing you or anyone in particular, just saying that ideology as a whole seems hopeless. :)
damn-I-Suck
damn-I-Suck
The reason we're depressed is because we have to live in a world of religious dominance. We're constantly told that we're going to hell, that we are worthless, and that we're evil to the bone simply because we don't believe in a divine creator. We are depressed because 90% of humanity is stupid enough to believe that shit!
Ramus
Ramus
This looks like a chibi Christian/Atheist thread
d-I-S don't be so harsh, it is not like everyone mistreat you because of this, and please don't call religion "that shit", you take a lot more kindness if you give kindness.
Dab_Of_Oppo
Dab_Of_Oppo
I agree with you. But you must ignore and rise above.

[I've been reading the works of Joseph Campbell recently] Christianity's (and many other's) biggest problem is that their believers take metaphor to be fact.
Dab_Of_Oppo
Dab_Of_Oppo
I've talked with pastors and Christians and more and had discussions about their faith. I would call myself an atheist, and I was not once cut down, or said I would be damned to hell, or anything of the like during those discussions.
Dab_Of_Oppo
Dab_Of_Oppo
My confoundment comes from your desire, your choice to believe that there is absolutely nothing beyond this existence. To choose that there is absolutely nothing but us and this moment. That seems thoroughly empty and without hope.
damn-I-Suck
damn-I-Suck
I never "chose" to believe that life ends at death. It was terribly inconvenient for me to accept this. It took YEARS of denial before I finally came to grips with it. Why? everyone is scared shitless of death, and no one wants to deal with the reality that lost family members are gone forever, it's simply too painful. It wasn't a choice, but rather "I had no choice".
damn-I-Suck
damn-I-Suck
I had no choice, because logically, there was no other choice as far as I was concerned. During this transition, life became meaningless and void, but only temporarily. Through existentialism I found a whole new meaning to life, one that I created, and that I was solely responsible for. It made me feel free and independent. The grass became greener on this side.
damn-I-Suck
damn-I-Suck
Me and Zerobeat see eye to eye on this one. It's only tragic in the beginning.
Dab_Of_Oppo
Dab_Of_Oppo
You made your choice. You took your journey. You had your time with Unapishtim upon the storm and the 12 leagues of blackness.

And you saw through it. I understand not being devoted to one faith, to accept one as true and all the others false regardless of what they have to say.
Dab_Of_Oppo
Dab_Of_Oppo
I understand the desire to shun the fact from religions. To see the ridiculousness about say, Jesus actually rising from the dead in to heaven.

I shun those impulses as well. For they are not fact.

But atheists who shun the fact with the metaphor is to say, "This is a good thing we can learn if we open our minds, but because it cannot possibly be true we must throw it ALL away."
Dab_Of_Oppo
Dab_Of_Oppo
Unless, lol, you and I are on the same page and trying to argue the same thing. (Which there's a good chance we are)
damn-I-Suck
damn-I-Suck
I agree with the 10 commandments. Basic human rules as far as I'm concerned. No, I have not "thrown away" everything that was good in the bible.
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