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I've been taking a look at Cervantes' wall game. There's lots of potential but similar challenges to SCV - inconsistency and random camera switching to throw the player off. Unfortunately we also lost 3A+B, so we've lost the best wall combo ender from SCV as well (3A+B, BBB). The optimal combo...

Well that is OK, since we're approaching the point where we'll only be going in circles and that would just serve to annoy. I may think that it would be a crazy change! But, it's a perfectly reasonable thing for people to have a difference of opinion. I'm just happy that the change is no longer...

What point was missed? Also, I did say that the reason he is being defended isn't -just- character bias. Character bias will always factor into this kind of discussion, yes. I was saying that this isn't the only reason why all the Cervantes players are defending him. That may not have been...

The fact that your example was supposed to be wrong was taken into account. You did ask for an explanation, but it seems you only wanted one so that you could say it was wrong, rather than actually take anything on board. Others as well as myself offered you plenty of explanation but you...

Thanks for using Mitsu as an example, because that helps me to better see where you're coming from. Now I don't mean to put words in your mouth and feel free to clarify what you actually mean. But as I understand it, part of your reasoning for wanting to make 3B more unsafe, as well as saying...

OK: All Cervantes players aren't completely against him getting any form of nerf. Cervantes players are reacting in this way because there calls for an overnerf from people that don't possess sufficient knowledge of the character when Cervantes is, overall, one of the less popular characters...

To get somewhat back on topic, as other people have said it is the range of 1AB that is its weakness. That isn't to say that its not a great move, because it is. I can see why Maxou, for example, gets really upset by Cerv's 1AB as well if he plays aPat, I imagine he is very often trying to get...

I read through that entire thread and oh my word! As soon as I saw that thread I had a feeling it would be a bad idea. Belial had noble intentions even if I disagree strongly with them. He did his best to sort out a system to make it work, but there are too many voices there crying for too many...

Yes to a lot of the things you said. But like I said, I was talking post 1AB gimmicks, and mentioned 1AB, 44A+B as a gimmick similar in function, but superior in just about every way to 1AB, 4A+B. Not as a cast iron tactic to remove the disadvantage! I've been having surprising success when...

You know, I was thinking a 44A+B post 33B would catch people off guard, because it's a similar situation to using it after 1AB, while forcing crouch as well. Just haven't remembered to try it out yet so it's good to hear for sure that it can work well. There are a few setups I'd like to try when...

If we're talking post 1A,B gimmicks, for what you're trying to do, you wanna know what works much better after 1A,B on normal hit? 44A+B... Don't you dare overuse it and get everyone wise to it!

That pretty much covers all the useful 3B followups, good stuff there. It's worth mentioning that 3B, 8B+K, 3B has nearly as much pushback as 3B, 8B+K, CE, which is significant because ending with a CE sends the opponent MILES. It's just hard to tell because ypu move forward so much yourself...

Just wanted to say that unfortunately this is NOT the case vs all characters. I used to use this all the time before Astaroth and others started side teching out of it.

LordNeko: I'd say Mitsurugi is definitely your guy if thats what you want, but Cervantes could be as well. He is the man who has everything. Some may disagree, but I'd say he has the most versatile practical moveset in the game. He can space, he can poke, he has simple but brilliant oki tools...

2A+B. This move hits grounded and stops all rolling stone dead, so if they don't tech you 2A+B. I also like post b2 mixups and use them a lot. Crazy damage potential. 3B, iGDR, b2, step forward, A throw is something like 133 damage... for no meter. It's insane. If they tech and then start...

This is a nice thread, I'm happy to see it up. 4B+K is a great move in the right situation/matchup due to it being a tech crouching, sidestepping move, but the crouch and step are both quite small so you ofter have to be careful with timing. Unsure about Maxi since he confuses me but I can...

No he isn't. There is already a Natsu matchup thread, on the first page of the Cervantes soul arena.

Regarding my earlier post about 3B, 8B+K, CE w!, 66B, 2A+B, WS A+B: Firstly, I've taken to using 66A over WS A+B at the end. Sometimes they fall out of the last hit of WS A+B and the wakeup pressure is even better with 66A due to less pushback. Even better pressure by ending with 6A as they get...

There are many moves you can do after ch 2A+B. WR AB, RCC b2, in fact many RCC moves including another 2A+B. You can also iGDR followed by aB if you feel up to it. I use 2A+B a lot to end wall combos in order to avoid camera issues. Agree with a lot of this list but would also say that some...

This isn't strictly true. It is definitely possible to get a successful iGDR motion much slower than 3 frames, I just retested to be sure. The reason why it often doesn't seem like it can be done slow is because for some reason, iGDR can't be buffered. Either that or the buffer window is very...