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First punish everything that is punishable on block. Then stop them from mashing or moving. Then go for 50/50s.

Fix him constantly facing and attacking the wrong way when the opponent is slightly off axis. Fix his moves going through people that are standing still.

No that's how it works. There's 2 frames at the end of the window to input a and get the JF, 1 frame slower and you get RLC a again. 1 frame faster and you get RLC aa non-JF.

Just do b+k:b kB 66a+b

https://8wayrun.com/threads/mitsurugi-general-discussion-trips-tricks.20010/page-2#post-771112

your 66b~rlc a:a dmg numbers are high, i think you had counter on. should be rlc k (53) rlc b (55) nevermind he just has a just frame version of rlc a:a i didnt even know existed rlc aa, 66 rlc b (58) ch b6, 66~9bb tech catches all (including no tech) but back (2nd hit wiffs)

He's fine, play better. If you have specific problems post them and get help but generic bitching doesn't warrant a serious response.

Updated the frame data post on page 2 with some more info

lh 1a, kB, 33bb (1p side) lh 1a, kB, 1a lh 1a, kB, dash 1b,a+b lh 1a, kB, delay 66a+b tech catch all directions (very tight timing to catch tech and hit no tech hold block) lh rlc b, kB, 66a+b

It seems pretty reliable to me, but I don't know for sure. All 3 seem to win clean in i19 situations as well. It's possible there are multiple active frames and the moves are hitting on different frames in different situations. Can you share some examples of cases where 3b doesn't hit? *edit*...

What makes you say that? 6a+b, 6b and 3b all clash after sophie b (hit +0), 4b (i18) as well as groh 3a (hit +0), 3b (i18) among other situations.

FC - full crouch As for methodology using clash/trade hit with a known move seems quite reliable in this game and takes maybe 30 seconds per move.

Interesting factoid about 6aa that doesn't fit nicely in frame data charts: If the first attack hits the second attack is uninterruptible. If the first attack is blocked the second attack clashes with i20.

https://8wayrun.com/threads/mitsurugi-general-discussion-trips-tricks.20010/page-2#post-771112 2a for cervy, mitsu, sophie certainly appears to be i12 in my tests.

22b, delay 3b tech catch all but left 22b, delay 66b tech catch all

sc 22bb 236a:ab, bt b+k, 1bb sc lh 3b 236a:ab, bt b+k, 1bb (requires timing)

Some basic frame data edit: added block data edit: added hit and ch data edit: added bA and kB edit: added guard damage from SCUFFLE and tweaked some frames, added gc rankings (1 most dmg, 5 least for same combos) edit: added some stance move info...

Missing old ws k and ws b; makes it harder to attack after 2a hit. Minor annoyance that they swap 1k and 2k inputs around. b6 and 3a changes are a huge nerf from previous games. Losing 4b, 11a, and 6b2 is disappointing. Most knockdowns/combos seem to push opponent far across the stage. 66a+b~g...

I don't like your definition for option select JG. The seems much more like a just guard frame trap to me. An option select JG to me would be more like Mitsu JG 3b against Xiba 4b+k where 3b is free after a jg and punishes the stance transition after a wiff jg. There are a ton of these...

Additionally it seems to be guaranteed in some other situations after ducking certain highs.