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  1. HolyForce

    Raph in new patch.

    If you actually land the auto GI from AG (catches lows), such as after blocked 4(B), 4 (your auto GI catches their 2A for example), the stun is really long. You should then press 6 to go into prep, then 2 for shadow evade, and B for the good stun. There's plenty of time to do this. So...
  2. HolyForce

    Envelopment setups and combos (WIP)

    Hey guys, just getting started w/ the game so I'm a little behind. B+K (Spiral Envelopment) and 2B+K (Circular Envelopment) activate on early frames, making them a great tool to use when you're getting rushed (such as instead of GI) or after an enemy blocks certain moves and you're heavily...
  3. HolyForce

    Patroklos General Chat

    Patroklos SPIKES Nightmare into the drink!
  4. HolyForce

    Patroklos General Chat

    PaTROLLklos. That is all.
  5. HolyForce

    Patroklos General Chat

    I have taken up trolling under Patroklos as a new hobby when I'm bored. No real disrespect meant to anyone I troll. P for Patroklos, P for Perfect. After this match, I fled my apartment; place felt like a crime scene. Opponent: "i put no effort" Myself: "you assume too much if you think I...
  6. HolyForce

    Infinite Justice: Patroklos SCV Guide

    2A is a good option after 66B+G. It catches teches, and on whiff doesn't make you realistically punishable. Using 4K your opponent has time to stand up after the hit frame and launch you. The whiffed 2A sometimes gets enemies to stand into an attack so doing another 2A immediately often CHs...
  7. HolyForce

    Patroklos Q&A/Discussion Thread

    236 [check] 236[attack] is good for closing gaps against Sieg, NM or Asta. They all have a long reaching high in their toolbox to keep you out. Granted they're all easy to wreck once you're up close, but this is a legit option to confirm the evasion of the high after the first 236, then 236A...
  8. HolyForce

    Patroklos Q&A/Discussion Thread

    I will sometimes 236, 236 but it doesn't keep constant TC frames, so you can't rely on it to 100% evade highs. As 236 with no attack ends, you stand for a few frames.
  9. HolyForce

    Infinite Justice: Patroklos SCV Guide

    66B+G has tech traps and wall splats. Instant win throw. Always 66B+G vs. A+G mix-up.
  10. HolyForce

    Patroklos Combo Discussion!

    It's been observed that character height does affect things like damage; as for reach I can only assume. I never tested myself for what Drake said: CaS is tournament banned. I do remember hearing an extremely short female Nightmare does a very noticeable damage increase. Yes; not sure if...
  11. HolyForce

    Patroklos Combo Discussion!

    Whiff is terminology used in other concepts, not just [fighting] games. Whiff means a complete miss. No hit nor block. For example, when you successfully step a move, you caused it to whiff. Or when an opponent misjudges the distances between you, and throws out an attack that falls short of...
  12. HolyForce

    Patroklos Combo Discussion!

    Air controllable. You can easily make the last hit of 1B~BE whiff, and sometimes the 2nd hit depending on angle. This is legit. Often used near ring-out by myself, as well. The WR K isn't safe, but the follow-up keeps some respect. Don't end with AA if you have a possible ring-out, as 2A is...
  13. HolyForce

    Patroklos Combo Discussion!

    Clean hits cause the damage to vary. Each attack has a varying random chance to "clean hit". Some attacks have a higher chance to clean hit than others; such as Pat's JF JS B as opposed to regular version. For note, JF JS B also has longer range. Same base damage if clean hit fails; same frames...
  14. HolyForce

    Patroklos General Chat

    I come with another cell phone clip of Patroklos being boss. This time against that poser, aPat, reading his mind and dodging his crap in style.
  15. HolyForce

    Patroklos Combo Discussion!

    It's because it's not a combo. That video is incorrect. It's a tech trap, escaped to the opponent's right only or by staying down. In fact, I've found quite a few situations where 1B~BE can be used as a tech trap, but they aren't good, as you should just finish the combo.
  16. HolyForce

    Patroklos General Chat

    The real joke is ZWEI beating Patroklos.
  17. HolyForce

    Patroklos' 10 best moves

    Yards, check the "Because I'm better than you" thread for "Vi-ol-owned". ZING!
  18. HolyForce

    Patroklos General Chat

    I know this is going to sound very noobish, but I don't like aPat mostly because all the damn Just Frames. I can execute most of them 90%+ of the time, but after playing an hour, your hands want to bleed. At least mine do. Games shouldn't be about difficultly of input, but rather mental...
  19. HolyForce

    Patroklos Combo Discussion!

    What's really funny with a combo like that against scrubs is replacing the end 236K with 44B+K and actually landing that garbage setup, and finishing off their health. lol
  20. HolyForce

    Blazing Justice: Pat's Unblockables.

    Not gonna lie, I drop 44B+K against certain character stances. Esp if I see a Yoshimitsu "sit and spin".
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