Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

Dissidia

Premium Member
To be honest, I would have forgiven Vergeben if he had apologized for giving false information or if he had just come clean about his fanfiction/speculation.

Similarly with Nyte. I don't remember if he actually apologized or not, but I'm fairly sure it was a weak or insincere apology. There was actually a period of time when I missed seeing Nyte post here (before his crazy shenanigans about the female newcomer and Rock) but then he became nasty over such an utterly insignificant thing (daring to challenge him on the newcomer idea/barbarian) and went absolutely ballistic.

It is why the Nyte has been made fun of for such a long time, his antics are extreme and his reactions are explosive. It is everything you could ask for in a forum based meltdown.

I don't think he's sorry, but I am glad that his misinformation campaign is over. But if he continues to have entertaining freakouts here or elsewhere I will get out my chair and enjoy my popcorn!

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Dissidia

Premium Member
if you have information that others don't you should be responsible with said information... leakers should be clear over what they know and what is speculation.

For example, one of the two 4chan leakers clarified and removed Lizardman and Hwang from the leaked roster list because they went and verified that they weren't there.

From what I've seen of vergeben on gamefaqs/reddit and other forums he seems to really relish to attention he gets...so this is all just an ego boost for him. Of course his reputation for soulcalibur leaks have been absolutely assblasted into the sun, but he seems to have some credibility with the smelly smash players....
 

WuHT

Premium Moderator
that Ivy SC2 1p concept art has a sizeable elbow buckler, which would look pretty silly in-game. I'm glad they're releasing these concept art (albeit from photos) because otherwise we would only have low-res scans (and some I've never seen before!).

Makes me wonder if they're going to contemplate releasing legacy costume parts as part of the upcoming CAS DLC.
 

Kostas_Greece

[14] Master
One of the reasons why I'm hesitant to believe the leaks were intentional is due to how different and seemingly random they've been. Here's a list of the leaks I can remember:
  • Knowledge of the game leaked a few weeks before being announced at Game Awards via Vergeben (I won't mention any of the other Vergeben stuff as they've been mostly ambiguous).
  • Geralt leaked via a tester posting some very tiny details about him and SC6 (this went under everyone's radar since it was posted on a random forum and didn't seem very believable at the time).
  • Taki trailer leaked one day before being announced online.
  • Yoshimitsu trailer leaked one day before being announced online.
  • Voldo leaked (via Israeli arm of Xbox) a few days before the formal announcement (was supposed to be announced during a comic con show).
  • The entire roster leaked by a guy working on the game's localization (though it took a long while before people actually believed the list).
  • Namco sent the wrong build to an e-sports event in Melbourne which happened to have the entire roster (except Inferno) unlocked, and thus footage of Cervantes and Raphael showed up.
  • Cervantes and Raphael leaked once again before their formal announcement via promotional trading cards Namco sent out to the press.
  • Amy and Cassandra leaked via 2B patch due to configuration files referencing them. The next patch would include the 6 weird codenames added to the same configuration files.
  • Screenshots of Character Creation Set A leaked via Namco Taiwan's Facebook 5 days before being announced with Amy at Evo Japan.
  • "Assassin" and "Alpha Patroklos" leaked due to very obscure references to them in the game's executable.

I should note that in addition to the character leaks via game files, they have periodically been adding some files now and then they're not supposed to. For instance, several patches before Cass was added would have the occasional file for Cass. Haohmaru actually had a file for him added back with the Hilde patch. I think those are all accidental due to it being hard to ensure no unused file is leftover in a patch (I should note that it's extremely rare for any game to not have unused leftover assets in their builds).

I don't really see how any of these leaks are to Namco's benefit. Their marketing plan for SC6 before its release was pretty straightforward: announce 1-2 characters every month. I think Cervantes and Raphael leaking so early was especially damning as that meant they had nothing to announce before release (and release was nearly 2 months away at this point) except for Inferno. And no one was gonna get excited about Inferno.

And then you have some character trailers which leaked mere days before they were supposed to be announced, and if those are intentional then what's the point? Especially since most of those trailer leaks were in such bad quality.

So yeah, my theory is that Namco is simply very sloppy. I can also confirm this when it comes to press assets. I have access to a European Namco press site for my Youtube channel and what's the last SC6 asset they posted there? ... The trailer for Amy. On the other hand, I have access to two Capcom press sites and both of those are updated super quickly whenever they announce something. Back when Namco actually did update that press site with SC6 press assets it was very random how slow or quickly they did it.


Raphael was the last character to be announced (if we ignore the 3-4 times he leaked...) so maybe it was supposed to be a reference to that?
"Assassin and Alpha Patroklos leaked"? You mean Hwang and Setsuka leaked!
 

FluffyQuack

[14] Master
@Kostas_Greece Yeah, I just like randomly calling them Assassin and Alpha Patroklos. I so wanna make an Alpha Patroklos Setsuka when she releases just as a troll character.

To be honest, I would have forgiven Vergeben if he had apologized for giving false information or if he had just come clean about his fanfiction/speculation.

Similarly with Nyte. I don't remember if he actually apologized or not, but I'm fairly sure it was a weak or insincere apology. There was actually a period of time when I missed seeing Nyte post here (before his crazy shenanigans about the female newcomer and Rock) but then he became nasty over such an utterly insignificant thing (daring to challenge him on the newcomer idea/barbarian) and went absolutely ballistic.

It is why the Nyte has been made fun of for such a long time, his antics are extreme and his reactions are explosive. It is everything you could ask for in a forum based meltdown.

I don't think he's sorry, but I am glad that his misinformation campaign is over. But if he continues to have entertaining freakouts here or elsewhere I will get out my chair and enjoy my popcorn!

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Didn't Vergeben make a big post where he listed most of his claims and apologized for the stuff he got wrong and explained why it was wrong? I feel like something like that happened.
 

Dissidia

Premium Member
@Kostas_Greece Yeah, I just like randomly calling them Assassin and Alpha Patroklos. I so wanna make an Alpha Patroklos Setsuka when she releases just as a troll character.


Didn't Vergeben make a big post where he listed most of his claims and apologized for the stuff he got wrong and explained why it was wrong? I feel like something like that happened.
I don’t remember that... I feel like I would remember that if that happened! Could it have been on somewhere that isn’t 8wayrun?

Edit: this is completely irrelevant but it looks like our friend has his own wiki page! It is full of wonderful quotes like this:

“According to WonkyKong, Vergeben has crapped his pants on more than one occasion. Supposedly the only true thing he has ever leaked.”


A warning: this page is full of vulgar language and you’ll probably lose IQ points trying to decipher the words on the page....

But still the fact that he has his own wiki page!

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FluffyQuack

[14] Master
I don’t remember that... I feel like I would remember that if that happened! Could it have been on somewhere that isn’t 8wayrun?
I can't remember where it was, but I vaguely remember a huge post where he tried to explain how and why he got some stuff wrong (it was in that post he explained why he thought there could be Switch version with a Fire Emblem guest character because he knew the name of a voice actress working on the game, but it turned out to be Xianghua). But well, this is nearly 2 years ago, so my memory might be off. I tried to find the post just now and I couldn't find it.