DanteSC3
[14] Master
As Nightmare would say... NOT YET!!
Soul Calibur VI: General discussion
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BloodyTigerRoar
[10] Knight
Looks like something Michael Jackson has worn.
BloodyTigerRoar
[10] Knight
Grøh seems like a mixture of Patroklos & Z.W.E.I. but with a cool move set.
kyrt
whatever
Ivy is the only thing close to a sorceress in soul calibur and Geralt likely wouldn't be doing the banging in that exchange.Dont forget he has to bang someone
David Blain
[09] Warrior
He reminds me of another
Strong resemblance to the face, voice, hair, clothing
DanteSC3
[14] Master
What about Viola?
The Turbanator
[11] Champion
That still doesn't solve the issue. If context were the only problem, then you could have Master Chief and nobody would complain. The issue is aesthetic as well as in intention.
2B makes no sense less for story reasons and more because she's a fucking robot in the late 16th century.
DanteSC3
[14] Master
sytus
[14] Master
2B's level of technology is far outside Soul Calibur's overton window when it comes to aesthetics. If 2B is to be acceptable then so does all the technology from her universe. We've seen this clash before with the Star Wars characters and while I would love a Star Wars game with Soul Calibur's combat, their presence in Soul Calibur was to the point of offensive. I don't want to see that again TBH.
Maedhros
[12] Conqueror
Nah, nah, we cool, we cool!
I have nothing against Grøh's appearance, nor do I have something against his arm piece in particular. I am just saying that I get people when they express doubts over the kind of futuristic/anime feel he emits when stacked next to the fact that he is someone from the XVI century period. The reason I am saying he will grow on us is that the game, once it's out, will almost surely provide us with the context for his appearance, and this discussion will probably be long forgotten. :)
As a fan of sci-fi, my mind is blown by the simplicity and elegance of this solution. Well done!
This "2B" makes no sense to players, but I bet prince Noctis made no sense either when he was announced. I don't think anybody friggin cares anymore, they are just enjoying him now.
David Blain
[09] Warrior
Her grandmother Olympia is just from this era, and is just coming to the dark mood of this game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_(short_story)
Vergeben
[13] Hero
not to mention this guy:
There's some serious cognitive dissonance that happens with Soul Calibur more than any series I've probably ever seen.
You can present the fact that anime inspiration and fantastical, magical elements have been there since the beginning, and only expanded upon with each entry, but people will deny aspects and cherrypick ways to be "right."
The truth of it is that there are people who just interpreted this anachronistic alternative history styled fighting game with fantasy elements and anime inspired designs differently.
Which brings me to the second point.
Takuji Kawano took over the series' art design since Soul Calibur II, which included drawing the characters in a more realistic anime art style. Prior to him, Soul Edge/Blade and the first Soul Calibur had outright, unmistakably anime looking official art, and with manga/anime inspired characters like Siegfried being their nod to Guts.
Which brings me to the third point.
Trends change. The older games still had anime inspired designs. The biggest difference and change was what's popular and what's big (to a fault) in anime nowadays is more divisive than it was back when older entries were being made and came out.
While this next thing is admittedly unfounded speculation, I do find it interesting that since Namco's merger with Bandai, it seems a lot like it could have affected aspects of Project Soul to appease the anime overlords that are Bandai, who own the license for Shonen Jump when it comes to games.
To the point where I wouldn't at all be surprised if in SCV's case, they intentionally took inspiration from Shonen Jump characters as some kind of unsubtle nod to the fact that have them under their banner IE: Natsu = Naruto, Xiba = Goku, and Dampierre basically just being and looking like a One Piece character.
And closing point.
It's not at all that the series has never had anime inspired designs, or fantasy elements for that matter.... the difference is that it later included elements that expanded upon those things; anime inspired design taking from modern trends and characters/series/aspects you don't like, and expanding upon and highlighting magical, fantastical elements that feel to be "too much" in a series that was already going down that path, but instead insisted on embracing that rather than toning it down.
'Member when anime was this cool, underground kinda counterculture movement thing in the west back in the day, before it both blew up in popularity and Japan decided to cater to otaku foremost because it's guaranteed money?
I 'member.
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MichaelJackson
[14] Master
Wait, do people really think Soul Calibur is somehow NOT based on anime/anime themes?
tirakai
[09] Warrior
There are people who convince themselves anything they like can't be anime. Like how a lot of Persona fans vehemently deny that it's a dating sim.
The Turbanator
[11] Champion
Because one mistake justifies another, right?
Ardenwolf
[10] Knight
Ok first they take away her awesome superior rapier style and turn her into this weird romani fortune teller and then have her violated by Geralt? They must really hate fans of the original Amy if they do that.
I_Love_Aogami
[12] Conqueror
Groh is there love child.
Okay? There could always be an argument that no guest in the series that we have had in this series has made any sense. Most of them would have excuses as coming from the future or from other worlds. One thing I want to bring up are the Star Wars guests. At first glance yes they don't make sense and do look out of place.
However, if you note that the setting of Star Wars is always told as taking place a long time ago it is probably confirming that cast of Star Wars taking place in the fifteen century. I may be wrong about this because I am not a huge Star Wars fan. Though if this was their intention that was a neat way to include them.
Thank you! I am a fan of the genre, too. So it wasn't that hard to come up with a solution. They would probably just say that 2B used time travel as an excuse. However, if they use the explanation as to why she is in the game in my last post it will fit perfectly with the tone and feel of Nier: Automata.
clariS
[07] Duelist
2B makes sense for a lot of reasons, and personally as a fan of Nier I'd like to see it. But personal biases aside I think there's a problem, her weapons/moveset are largely longsword/greatsword based, and so kinda redundant.
I have no doubt that they'd be able to differentiate her moveset from the other sword users in the game, but I think it makes more sense from their point of view to add a guest character that uses weapons we haven't seen a hundred times before, one that is more different from Geralt.
I have no doubt that they'd be able to differentiate her moveset from the other sword users in the game, but I think it makes more sense from their point of view to add a guest character that uses weapons we haven't seen a hundred times before, one that is more different from Geralt.
Ardenwolf
[10] Knight
Is irrelivant as won't be CaSable anyway. At this point would rather unique styles go to new characters altogether so that everyone can enjoy them and they don't become too niche.
squidgy617
[10] Knight
I don't know why people would say 2B is out of place when everyone seemed to love Ashlotte, who IMO fits the SC world a lot less than 2B herself, at least aesthetically. They're both robots essentially.