Wind Dancing - Talim Combos and More!

Eclair

Eclair

[10] Knight
Compiled by OOFMATIC, Dogysamich, & ZeroEffect317

User contributions will be updated here for easy reference. Props in advance to all who will contribute.

AS = Air Sault (Wind Sault)
WL = Wind Leap
WC = Wind Charmer

All damage tested with full armor.

Natural combos (NC)
A,A
(A,A) 6B,A
1A~2_8, WC A,A
6A,K
44A,A

B,B
3B,A
33B,6B

11K,A

A+B, 236A, 236B
A+K
6B+K, AS A~2_8, WC A,A

WC A,A
WC B,B
WC B*B

AS B:K


Natural Combos on Counter Hit (NCc)
CH A,A,B
CH 6A,A
CH 1A~2_8, WC A,A,B
CH 1A~2_8, WC K
CH 1A~2_8, WC A+K

CH 4B,B
CH FC 3B,B

CH 33K,A

CH WC A,A,B

Combos & Juggles

(3B), [A] (2nd hit only)
--> BT B, 3B, 2A+B - 74 dmg
--> 2_8, WC B:B - 58 dmg
--> BT A+B, 236A, 236B - 47 dmg

66A
--> 6, AS A - 40 dmg

(4A), K
--> 33A - 44 dmg
--> 44K - 42 dmg
--> 4A+B - 41 dmg
--> 6A,A - 45 dmg

(4A), [K]
--> BT A - 44 dmg
--> BT B - 39 dmg
--> BT K - 34 dmg
--> BT A+B, 236A, 236B - 51 dmg (JF timing, almost when they hit the floor. Can't be ACed)

44A,A
--> 2A+B - 56 dmg
--> 1K - 51 dmg (56 dmg with tech)

236B
--> 66B, 2A+B - 63 dmg
--> 66B, 44B - 67 dmg
--> 6A+B - 46 dmg
--> 6A,A - 48 dmg

22B
--> 6, AS B:K - 65 dmg
--> 6, AS B+K - 57 dmg

44B
--> G, 2A+B - 44 dmg

66B
--> 44B - 47 dmg
--> 2A+B - 44 dmg

33B:6B,
--> 2A+B - 56 dmg
--> 1K - 51 dmg

BT B
--> 3B,[A], 2_8, WC B:B - 66 dmg
--> 3B,[A], BT A+B, 236A, 236B - 64 dmg
--> ~2_8, WC K - 40 dmg
--> ~2_8, WC A+K - 41 dmg

8B
--> BT B - 50 dmg
--> BT K - 44 dmg
--> BT A+B, 236A, 236B - 66 dmg (JF timing, almost as they hit the floor. Can't be AC'd)

66K
--> 66B, 2A+B - 56 dmg
--> 6A+B - 39 dmg
--> 22_88B - 38 dmg
--> 33A - 39 dmg
--> 44K - 37 dmg
--> 4A+B - 36 dmg
--> 6A,A - 40 dmg

66[K]
--> BT A - 39 dmg
--> BT B - 34 dmg
--> BT K - 29 dmg
--> BT A+B, 236A, 236B - 46 dmg (JF timing, almost when they hit the floor. Can't be ACed)
--> G, 6A+B - 39 dmg (strict timing)
--> G, 2A+B - 34 dmg
--> G, 44B - 34 dmg

ws A+B
--> 33A - 54 dmg
--> 4A+B - 51 dmg (Forced tech, leaves Talim BT with adv)
--> 44K - 52 dmg
--> 2A+B - 49 dmg

Running K Slide
--> 44B - 47 dmg
--> 22B - 51 dmg (can be teched)

1A+B
--> 2A+B - 34 dmg
--> 1K - 29 dmg

6B+K, AS K
--> AS B+K - 41 dmg
--> AS K - 34 dmg
--> AS A - 34 dmg
--> AS A+B 28 dmg (only last part connects)

6B+K, AS A+B
--> 2A+B - 46 dmg
--> 1K - 41 dmg

6B+K, AS A+K
--> 2A+B - 41 dmg
--> 1K - 35 dmg

4B+K, WL A,
--> FC 3B,B~6, AS A+K, 2A+B - 54 dmg (will not work on large characters)
--> FC 3B,B~6, AS A+K, 1K - 52 dmg (will not work on large characters)
--> FC 3B,B~6, AS A+B, 2A+B - 55 dmg (for large characters)
--> FC 3B,B~6, AS A+B, 1K - 53 dmg (for large characters)
--> FC 3B,B~6, AS B+K~6~4, AS A+B, 2A+B - 69 dmg (for Astaroth and Rock)
--> FC 3B,B~6, AS B+K~6, AS A+B, 2A+B - 62 dmg (for Lizardman; some hits whiff.)

4B+K, WL B
--> 44B - 47 dmg
--> 2A+B - 44 dmg

4B+K, WL K
--> 66B, 2A+B - 49 dmg
--> 66B, 1K - 47 dmg
--> 6A+B - 45 dmg

4B+K, WL A+B
--> 2A+B - 103 dmg

BT B+K, A+B/BT [B+K], A+B
--> BT B - 48 dmg
--> BT K - 44 dmg
--> BT A+B, 236A, 236B - 44 dmg
--> BT 2B - 43 dmg
--> BT 2K - 40 dmg

CH (A,A,6B),A (last hit stun)
--> 6, AS A+B, 2A+B - 46 dmg (61 with tech)

CH 3B,[A]
--> 2_8, WC K - 45 dmg
--> 2_8, WC B:B - 55 dmg
--> 2_8, WC B:B, 1B - 60 dmg
--> BT A+B, 236A, 236B - 49 dmg

CH 4B,B
--> 66A+B - 53 dmg
--> 2A+B - 48 dmg
--> 22B - 51 dmg

CH FC 3B,B
--> 6, AS A - 39 dmg
--> 6, AS K - 38 dmg
--> 6, AS B+K - 46 dmg
--> 6, AS B:K - 54 dmg
--> 6, AS A+B - 42 dmg

CH 2A+B
--> 6, AS A+B - 48 dmg
--> 6~4, AS B+K - 49 dmg

CH 1A+B
--> 44B - 42 dmg
--> 2A+B - 39 dmg
--> 22_88B - 46 dmg (catches all tech as well)

CH A+K (last hit only)
--> A,A,B - 37 dmg
--> A,A,6B,A~6, AS A+B, 2A+B - 54 dmg

CH 6B+K, AS A
--> 2_8, WC A,A,B - 47 dmg
--> 2_8, WC A+K - 41 dmg


Wall Combos

Move that Wallstuns (33A, 66A, etc)
--> 3B, [A]~2_8, WC B:B
--> 3B, [A], BT A+B, 236A, 236B

ws A+B
--> high wallstun, 236B, 6A+B, wallstun, 2A+B -75 dmg
--> high wallstun, 236B, 66B, 2A+B - 70 dmg
--> high wallstun, 236B, 4A+B - 63 dmg (Forced tech, leaves Talim BT with adv)

Tech Traps

66A~6,
--> AS A~2_8, WC A,A - 66 dmg - All
--> AS B+K~6, AS A+B, 2A+B - 84 dmg - forward, back

CH 66A~6,
--> AS A~2_8, WC A,A, - 68 dmg - All
--> AS B+K~6, AS A+B, 2A+B - 86 dmg - forward, back

CH 3B
--> 1A~2_8, WC A,A - 53 dmg - All
--> 22_88B~6, AS B:K - 80 dmg - forward, back, right (Catches ALL tech on certain characters)

CH 4B,B,
--> 4A,A - 59 dmg - All
--> (delay) 66A+B - 69 dmg - All (strict timing for side techs)
--> (delay) 1A~2_8, WC A,A - 72 dmg - All
--> (delay) 33A - 73 dmg - forward, back, left
--> WC A+K, 22B - 84 dmg - forward, back, right (immediately WC to Talim's left. So 1P = 8B+K, 2P = 2B+K)
--> (delay) 22_88B~6, AS B:K - 100 dmg - forward, back, left (long delay)
--> (delay) 236, 66B, 44B - 113 dmg - forward, back, left (slight delay, Max charge 236)

8B
--> G 236B - forward only
--> G 1A - forward, right, left
--> BT A+B, 236A, 236B - forward, right

6A+B
--> 4B - 46 dmg - Forward, Back

1A+B
--> 6A+B - Forward, Back, and Right (Talim is left retarded?)
--> 44B - forward only

CH 1A+B
--> 22_88B~6, AS B:K - 85 dmg - forward, back, right (Catches ALL tech on certain characters)

CH 11K
--> (delay) ws A - 38~40 dmg - all (window is tight)
--> 6A+B - 48 dmg - Forward, Back
--> (RCC) 33A - 53 dmg - forward, back, left
--> 236B, 66B, 44B - 85 dmg - Forward, Back

A+B, 236A (no third part)
--> 33A - 53 dmg - forward, back, left

236B
--> (run forward) iWS A - 42 dmg - All
--> (delay) AS A - 59~60 dmg - All
--> (delay) AS B+K~6, AS A+B, 2A+B - 78 dmg - Forward, Back, Right

(3B) [A] (2nd hit only w/ stun)
--> G 236B, 66B, 44B - 93 dmg - forward, back
--> G 1A~2_8, WC A, A - 62 dmg - all

BT B
--> (delay) 236B, 66B, 44B - 91 dmg - forward, back (tight window)
--> (delay) 1A~2_8, WC A, A - 60 dmg - All

CH 2A+B
--> 44B, 2A+B - 72 dmg - forward, back

44AA
--> 1K - 56 - All
--> 6A+B - 71 dmg - Forward, Back

33B:6B
--> 11_77B - 44 dmg - Forward, Back, left
--> 44B, 2A+B - 76 dmg - Forward only

44B
--> WC K - 44 dmg - forward, back
--> G 11B - 50 dmg - Forward, Back
--> G 44BG, 2A+B - 72 dmg - Forward, Back

66B (WL B)
--> 11B - 50 dmg - Forward, Back
--> (delay) 1A~2_8, WC A, A - 64 dmg - all (slight delay)
--> (delay) 11A~2_8, WC A, A - 62 dmg - all (same; easier to time than 1A)

66K
--> (delay) 1A~2_8, WC A, A - 51 dmg - all (moderate delay)
--> (delay) 11A~2_8, WC A, A - 49 dmg - all (same; easier to time than 1A)

AS A+B
--> 44BG, 2A+B - 74 dmg - Forward, Back

WL A, FC 3BB (stun)
--> iWS A - 58 dmg - All (tight window)

WL A+B
--> 44K - 117 dmg - All
--> 1A+B - 119 dmg - forward, back
--> 33A - 120 dmg - forward, back, left


Ring Outs

Forward - High
66A
BT A
66B
WL B

Forward - Mid
236B/236
--> 66B
--> 6A+B (farther range than 66B)
--> AS A+B (farthest range)

33B:6B
22B
-->~6, AS A

66K
--> 66B (farther range than 66K)
--> 6A+B (farthest range)

66[K]
--> BT A (farther range than 66K)
--> BT K (farther range than BT A)
-->~G, 6A+B (about the same range as BT K)

(4A), K
--> 2A+B (farthest range)

(4A), [K]
--> BT A (strict timing, farther range than 4A[K])
--> BT K (farthest range)

1A+B (right at the edge)

CH 1A+B --> 1B (right at the edge)
CH 1A+B --> 2A_2K (right at the edge)

ws A+B
--> 6K (farther range than ws A+B)
--> 2A+B (farthest range)

B+K
CH FC 3B,B
-->~6, AS A (farther range than FC 3B,B)
-->~6, AS A+B (farthest range)

CH 2A+B
-->~6, AS A+B

AS A+B
WC K
WL K
--> 2A+B
--> 66B
--> 6A+B

Forward - Low
WC A+K
WL A, FC 3B,B~6, AS A+B (decent length from edge)
Running K Slide

Left
33A
ws A
BT A
CH 1A~2, WC K
BT B, 3B[A]~2, WC K (opposite direction for 2P side)
BT B, 3B[A]~2, WC B:B (opposite direction for 2P side)

Right
A+G
44K
CH 1A~8, WC K
BT B, 3B[A]~8, WC K (opposite direction for 2P side)
BT B, 3B[A]~8, WC B:B (opposite direction for 2P side)

Behind
8B, BT K
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

22B 6, AS B:K

Can also done from Crouch>
3 B 6, AS B:K
or
33B 6, AS B:K
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

I've gone through the Brady guide and added some of my own.
When the Softbank guide hits I'll post the different combos they have (if any).
Not fullly tested and dmg from Brady is sometimes a little off (but many for ya to enjoy, haha):

3B:6B, 2K - 49 dmg
WC B:B, AAB - 60 dmg
WC A+K, 2A+B - 42 dmg
2_8B6, WS K, A+B - 56 dmg
2_8B6, WS B:K - 64 dmg
236B, AAB - 41 dmg
236B, 6AA 52 dmg
236B, 6A+B 49 dmg

BTB, 3B [A], 2_8 WC B:B, AAB - 71 dmg
release 3B [A] just before full charge

4B+K, WL K, 33A - 41 and up dmg
while rising A+B, 33A 54 dmg
CH FC 3B, B_6, AS K, A+B 50 dmg
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

3B:6B, 2K - 49 dmg

1K or 2A+B instead does a little bit more damage.

WC B:B, AAB - 60 dmg

That ones awesome.

WC A+K, 2A+B - 42 dmg

Tested this one, doing 22B instead will make it 48 damage. Will add this to the list.

2_8B6, WS K, A+B - 56 dmg

You mean 22_88B right, the A+B is not guaranteed, as the person can AC after the AS K.

2_8B6, WS B:K - 64 dmg

This one is listed already, another good option is AS B+K, it does slightly less damage but gives you better wakeup options.

236B, AAB - 41 dmg
236B, 6AA 52 dmg
236B, 6A+B 49 dmg

The combo i use for 236B is: 236B, 66B, 2A+B - 66 dmg

BTB, 3B [A], 2_8 WC B:B, AAB - 71 dmg

Didnt have the AAB in the one i listed. Will add. =)

4B+K, WL K, 33A - 41 and up dmg

The one I have listed is 4B+K, WL K, 66B, 2A+B - 49 dmg.

while rising A+B, 33A 54 dmg

Already listed =P

CH FC 3B, B_6, AS K, A+B 50 dmg

Again, AS A+B isn't gauranted after the AS K due to air control.
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

No prob.
I tried to get the one's out that were exactly the same.
At least we found one new combo!

All 'ws' above should be wr (and put in the notes that they mean while rising).
The B*B above is a typo and should be B:B.

For beginners:
AS= 6B+K
WL= 4B+K
WC= 2_8B+K
_ = or
wr= while rising
BT= back turned
CH= counter hit
:= just frame
FC= full crouch (2G)
[]= hold
should be added above (think I got them all).
 
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Talim_JP said:
wr= while rising
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Since I can remember, everyone on the forum has always used WS for while rising or "while standing". I think this may have started a long time ago as to not mix up While Rising and While Running.

So using 'WS' is correct. And because everyone uses WS instead of WR it's also the reason we call Wind Sault "AS".
 
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Oh, I guess:

ws= while rising

then.

I would think while standing is your 'normal' position so that if you do A+B while standing it's a different move than intended.

Glad we got a few new combos! (thanks for testin/lookin at em)
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

w00t first post after migrating from CF and I'm not even in Maxi forum :P

BT B, 6K____CH 6K
-> 4BB, 2A+B
-> 4BB, 66A+B **
-> 236B, 66B, 2A+B

**)if opp techs after 4BB, this ender still hits but no longer registered as combo and damage scaling will be reset, suhweet!

Talim is fun as hell
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

Interesting... I'll have to try the first two out, thanks.
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

minimaxi said:
BT B, 6K____CH 6K
-> 4BB, 2A+B
-> 4BB, 66A+B **
-> 236B, 66B, 2A+B
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Nothing is guaranteed after the 6K, as it is a shakable stun. The best combo for BT B is: BT B, 3B*A~2_8, WC B:B, AAB.

Also CH 4BB, (slight delay) 66A+B has been a tech trap since SC3, it does more damage than not delaying it, and will also ring out forward.
 
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OOFMATIC said:
Nothing is guaranteed after the 6K, as it is a shakable stun. The best combo for BT B is: BT B, 3B*A~2_8, WC B:B, AAB.

Also CH 4BB, (slight delay) 66A+B has been a tech trap since SC3, it does more damage than not delaying it, and will also ring out forward.
Click to expand...

forgive my ignorance, I just got into Talim in SCIV *_* thanks for correction ^^
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

3B*A has a strict timing, maybe that's your problem. You have to release A just before the maximum charge time.
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

No... I hit 3B~A just fine... dizzy stun and everything... the WC B:B just misses...

You'll see it the videos from this weekend's tourney that I am encoding soon.
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

It doesnt matter who my opponent is... I even try during practice mode and I cant get it.
 
Wind Dancing - The Talim Combos and More!

Yeah, I made a thread for that problem at CF.com. Are you using a CaS model with Talim's fighting style? If so, that's why that combo is missing at the WC B part.

Those CaS models are taller than the normal Talim model, so her hit ranges are altered as a result. The combo still works technically, but really REALLY requires perfect just-frame 3B:{A} timing. You have some slop room for 3B{A} with the generic Talim, making the combo much easier to execute consistently. If you want to customize and still want to be able to do all her combos, you'll have to alter her normal model and not go to the CaS system.
 
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Hmmmm, then I can't imagine why WC B:B would whiff if you're getting 3B{A} to put them in a falling animation.

EDIT: Perhaps there is a difference on inputting ~8_2 for the WInd Charmer spin? Maybe one side gives better results than the other, though I don't recall having a problem with whiffs (or is it being blocked)?
 
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