If I did do a round robin, it would be in addition to the double elimination tourney, not in place of it. I'm considering the idea, but I kinda prefer a ranking ladder series. I think...
Ladders would be a terrible idea. Rather than promoting competition, it would stifle it and no one would ever challenge anyone if they couldn't rank up and it'd just be the same handful of people fighting the same handful people endlessly with minimal change at the top of the ladder---which is where I'd hope people are wishing things to be more interesting. If all one seeks in a tourney is efficiency, oh it's definitely the right way to go. But it's fucking boring as hell.
not Clint Eastwood said:
Theres NO way to regulate the CaS version of DJ in an online tourney. Theres NO way to check to make sure my opponent is using the proper specs to allow him in tourney play. Just sounds like a cluster fuck to me.
A round robin, online tourney would take weeks and weeks to complete. We are already having enough trouble getting through the first round in a double elim tourney. Much less trying to get everyone to get in touch with everyone to arrange matches. That would take WAY to long. I dont know whats so hard to understand that.
The issue regarding DJ's ban is solely based on hitboxes being changed by CAS, correct? Do please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't pretty much every conceivable hitbox issue be associated with height and equipment? Height changes in CAS are immediately visible as soon as a single round begins, anyone that would be seeking to exploit hitboxes with non-standard sizes would stick out like a sore thumb.
And again for an online tourney, any differences caused by something as minute as non-height changes wouldn't be significant. I also find Wombat's argument against DJ to be quite faulty, seeing as how it's far from difficult to distinguish online from serious tourneys. With that little text wall painted all over the online forum, there's simply no plausible situation where someone would make that mistake.
Round robin is as flawed as any other tourney or season format. What it does differently is more strongly promoting healthy, active, unpredictable competition and allow for a more diverse set of matches for *ALL* competitors. A side effect of this is that whoever performs the best overall is most likely to have the best score in rankings, so a season's victory is more definitive than fighting the same players over and over.
So basically we've got three kooky options with what we're doing now as the middle ground with issues from both extremes leaking in. Ladders are dull, round robin is cumbersome.
Ladders would be the worst thing to happen. If everyone fights the same players over and over, they'll become complacent and lazy in adapting to new opponents near their level. Then we'll have some bullshit where something that shouldn't work against competent players accustomed to playing multiple styles tears through everyone that became too complacent without earning it. I'm sure some of you more familiar with the tourney scene have seen how much it sucks when that happens, if not in Bamco's recent championship having players that shouldn't have been there then elsewhere. I'm sure there are more examples. Of course online isn't the same as offline blahblahblah, we should be aiming to maximize the potential of our format to take advantage of things that can't be done in offline tourneys(players unable to travel amongst other issues) and embrace the positives an online tourney brings that offline tourneys currently do not. If we can avoid bullshit like that things will be better and there's really no reason beyond "lol i r 2 layZ 4 study matchups" to keep DJ banned from an online tourney either. If anyone were to try to use exploits, uploading the replay provides a quick and easy disqualification.
I probably didn't word this in the best manner possible since I'm so heavily medicated at the moment, but there's really no reason not to really consider it. If the same matches with the same three players over and over for months on end sounds that interesting, just wait until one of those three players leaves the community! Then things'll be even more interesting! A closed circle with a slowly diminishing membership will only deterioate. Same goes for a tourney scene. If you want just the same people against the same people and cut off the ability for new blood to come in, you're going out of your way to fuck yourselves over pretty much.
