Its waaaay more trouble than its worth if you have a secondary with a better matchup, that's all I'm saying with Soph. If I had to take on Ramon or Dina etc. I'd go straight for Kilik. =/its hard not impossible
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Its waaaay more trouble than its worth if you have a secondary with a better matchup, that's all I'm saying with Soph. If I had to take on Ramon or Dina etc. I'd go straight for Kilik. =/its hard not impossible
If I have to fight a really GOOD Sophy's player I pick Siegfried... if I lose I chose to lose with HONOR... I if have to fight a mediocre Sophy's Player I chose Kilik, cause I can AA them every time they 236B me and SHOW THEM how GOOD it feel to be PUNISHED... for NO PARTICULAR REASON...Its waaaay more trouble than its worth if you have a secondary with a better matchup, that's all I'm saying with Soph. If I had to take on Ramon or Dina etc. I'd go straight for Kilik. =/
-_- Dude.. shut up..Did you even read what I put up Vs. Cassandra? Most of what I'm talking about is counteroffensive or as I would call it, proactive defence. If you have a better method of breaking down and explaining the Cassandra matchup, I would prefer you shared it rather than acting almost like Vincent, lol.
If I have to fight a really GOOD Sophy's player I pick Siegfried... if I lose I chose to lose with HONOR... I if have to fight a mediocre Sophy's Player I chose Kilik, cause I can AA them every time they 236B me and SHOW THEM how GOOD it feel to be PUNISHED... for NO PARTICULAR REASON...
Hey! Long time lurker first time poster. I come from a strictly SCII background, and haven't played the series competitively since. I dabbled in SCIV for about a month last year, but the game was already taking its last breaths as SCV was announced. Nevertheless I scoured the SCIV Sieg boards and found an incredible amount of information, most of which was derived from conversations involving/threads made by Syn, Slayer, Heaton and Jink. I'd like to thank all of you guys for the hard work you do and let you know that the learning resources you have provided are invaluable and very much appreciated.
Siegfreid or Nightmare? I know of their major distinctions in moveset, but not much else. My knowledge pretty much = Nightmare is a tad simpler but arguably more effective, excels at rushing a character and breaking down defense directly as opposed to maneuvering around it or focusing on space control. Siegfried is more unsafe (frame-wise), but has more moves to deal with a variety of situations. He also has a few good quick interrupts which is something Nightmare lacks (I think?).
Is there any benefit to choosing one over the other, and is there anything I'm missing in my narrow analysis?
I also keep hearing about how much trouble Sieg has with Sophitia and other quick characters.
well repeat agA's will kill your step if you try, 66K will interrupt anything you throw out that isnt i15 or faster, and will put you into throw mixups anyways, and well most other options faster than that can either be spaced or stepped and whiff punished or at least give mixup opportunity. duck an agA, and you get a WR combo or a potential throw, but at the risk of eating a power mid. turtle up and you're in a throw mixups again anyways. you've got answers to all of these, but nightmare has something in response that is equally as effective in every department, and imo better when it comes to whiff punishment. at tip he can sacrafice frames for range most of the time, and even if you do choose to backstep, it doesnt really prevent him from doing a frontstep agA, or even forcing a mixup out of it. while blocking doesnt necessarily put you in a bad position, especially if you choose the right options, it definately isnt favorable either. it applies pressure on the oponent, and isnt really something you want to block if you can avoid it. not to mention he can also just as easily interchange agA and grabs with eachother if he so chooses to, which aids in helping force the opponent to duck as well.why duck NM's JagA when it does no guard damage? you are just mixing yourself up