Soul Calibur V Raphael - Nerfs? Buffs? Change Of Style?

Raph in sc3 had a +5 on hit bb yo

it used to track %100 so the -2 on hit was justified
+5 seems like a lot now but in sc3 most BBs were +4 because everything was faster

I used to have a link to all sc3 framedata but i lost it when I upgraded to windows 7

Yea raphs 2B is probably one of the best 2Bs in the game the only balance to it is its 0 on NH and Ch

vampires bites, right?
so for raphael We Can put Something like this, could be a throw move! : D

we already have this thread http://8wayrun.com/threads/soul-cal...uffs-change-of-style.6472/page-10#post-326829

After watching the video posted by Kayane, it appears preparation lacks a reliable mid (ie safe and relatively fast), prep K is unsafe and the second hit of prep kBE is easily TCed, leaving Raph open for a launcher. Kayane dodged it every time and punished.

Pirouette kick looks totally out of place in prep in the first place*, and I'm happy enough just for its hitbox. I feel spoiled. prep kBE just looks nonsensical. Had to say it. Regarding prep viability, again, that non-prep is an option of every prep transition. I believe with this game's speed it s more likely to win those crucial frames or mindtrick the blocked return attack.
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Still don't get why 66B guard breaks and not others he might have. 22B -> "prep A" looks cool in one way, but also feels out of order. I hope 22B gives an alternative option if I don't want to push away.
I am waiting for his jump kick; that's his real signature move. When 4B was introduced I thought it replaced "roundhouse kick". RHK should slow-knd-stun on NH, indeed.
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And now I'd like to say something about Raphael playstyle. Then a command switch possibility that may be loved.

Raphael and prep - Throughout the (SCIII posterior) ages

Raphael can be played by looking at the possible NH or CH payoff of some prep transition into a prep combo. These options can then be modulated on the fly on wrong guess, to back out or possibly gain profit if you strongly anticipate the move after. But how strong is this, really? Is it proved that looking for the prep combo is best the most menacing way to wield him?

Toward a balanced style: rapiere des Sorel

Raphael now has various moves that are good themselves, in their own right. They're worthwhile to play their own mixup. His prep suite are a capability that makes a certain set of interrupt-flavoured, range-speedy moves, have further slants in reward to his favour that are extreme if seen as poke-like. If 6BB is not "a lightweight prep entry on hit or block" but rather "a fast CH confirmable that commits you to literally nothing", it goes from bread to true annoyance.

Pokes, already have vanishing risk, but an opponent has to make the choice, hit or block, how to challenge a preppable move, and prep has capable combos. That is what the suite is to me, with this new set of abilities and stun. It still is a narrow range of answers, but he always controls how the exchange ends.

Yet I don't expect viewing them as 'pokes' will be bought so easily.

What is prep? Really?

A prep string is... what is it about a prep string , that only prep allows, but in terms of the things all characters do? It's a long pseudoframetrap of some sort. Something about his Prep set, being moves that hurt, but being able to enter them off of moves that are friendly to more purposes than the prep moves alone could viably be entered from, is for some reason something I want to articulate or see articulated. And viewed another way, he's just attacking, getting advantage, and trying out bulkier moves he has set up.

Why is Raph his own character, mechanically?

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Idea:
4B+K becomes a version of 33*99B, chosen to one side and with an actual tech step. BAM. Hated move gone, command space used, and 8wr input for a vertical freed up. It might even introduce a tracking feature.
I do like Cantarella Needle but this Raph is becoming practical again - that's what makes it odd to see 44A still as it is. Maybe left and right 2*8b+k could keep the step of Death Guise to either side; but I somehow like the 4B+K single version.

*he leads with his left foot , but kicks with it Prep k, standing on his right, inside of ~14 frames. How?

remember the days (sc2) where triple botta tempo could enter prep IV, prep II, or prep III. memories :)

Understand what you mean. Man oh man where's the flair.

Just a question to the community about Raphael, did anyone think raph's old prep sidestep was useful and if so was it more useful than SE?

Sea is great imo

How about as a defensive stance? Which is preferred?

I like the fact that Raphael has the defensive 214 (at least I think this was mentioned as the input) GI out of preparation now that is a plus?

I'm not going to lie, what i valued about Raphael in his first two games was his ability to move in and out and all around (technically he still can but with less style and Raphael flair), he was a very mobile fencer. but he does look really beastly in in terms of power in soul calibur 5. SEB was beastly in SCIV but it just took to long to get into. SEB moves out of the first phase of the first phase of SE looks exceptional in SCV, but prep looks like it could benefit from some work. So far the only danger looks like it could be the 214 aGi from it. Unless there are a different set of moves out of the back step from it. It looks like if you wait, it goes back into preparation. But I don't know if it is possible to do moves during his aGi back step. Sidesteps with SE would be the shiz tho bruh. Because SE alone just looks like it's not enough he seems so trapped in one place. Oh yea, shout out to VE, where you at bruh?!

Just as a fun addenumn/trivia, all Preps in SC2 could cancel into BT attacks if the enemy was in a certain orientation (I believe to Raph's right?) which was actually pretty useful due to the speed/length of movement during Prep's + the large steps that were in SC2. This made a pretty silly/strong option select between Prep I A (pardon me if i get the numeral wrong- it's been a long time since SC2, haha. The current VE A) and BT 2A, making step a somewhat difficult option for the enemy. BT 2A gave huuuuuge + frames on hit and was a low in sc2.

You know what, they kept his beastly 2A. Love that move, keeps the crazies away

i really didnt like the 2A in those games, even if they were quick that left you at an awkward looking angle

I was thinking about what if Raphael had something like that SCIV Amy's step transition move. It'd tech crouch or 6BB214. It be kewl if he had moves that transition into steps and not preparation. In 2 66K214 was his only transition into retreat step. It be interesting if the developers implemented transitions into step stances rather than preparation as well. It'd have to be extra flashy because it's Raphael of course.