What are the best BE and CE moves?

MuffinMan123

MuffinMan123

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I am guessing best BE is probably viola's relaunch or her highly damaging B+K BE. I really like bullrush BE, but it can get JG'ed.

so what about CE moves? elysium's cover the entire screen and it's not punishable unless you JG it, but viola's is super safe and guarantees a mix up if she has orb. apat's CE has the shortest startup time and can be comboed easily despite its weak damage. in terms of pure damage output, algol's CE definitely wins, and even with just 1 bar it gives a free mix up.
 
I would say for BE moves, ZWEI's B+K BE is one of the best for mix ups, Mitsu 2KB BE is also probably one of the best. I guess most are just situational, each has its uses.
 
Best Brave Edge: Viola 44A BE. Been fucking up people's lives since 2012.
Best Critical Edge: Patroklos since it also rings out from the cheap seats on top of doing a grip of damage.
 
Alpha's CE isn't the "best", but it is goddamn retarded for being 8 frames.
Probably Pat or Hilde for best CE.

We already know the best BE...
 
Can someone explain why people keep ranking Omega's as the best? I don't think it really stacks up compared to CE's like Pat or even Ezio's. It's a typical i13 90 damage launcher that works in some of her combos, at least Pat's combos off of everything ever and has ridiculous RO range and Ezio's is a notch safer on block and can clean hit.
 
Jimbonator said:
Can someone explain why people keep ranking Omega's as the best? I don't think it really stacks up compared to CE's like Pat or even Ezio's. It's a typical i13 90 damage launcher that works in some of her combos, at least Pat's combos off of everything ever and has ridiculous RO range and Ezio's is a notch safer on block and can clean hit.
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Because they don't play her.
 
While Pyrrha O CE is amazing, it lacks the utility (IMO) of chars like Pat (RO, same damage and frames), aPat (punishes almost anything and combos off safe 2A/FC A) and arguably Tira's as far as utility goes.
 
why is viola's 44a BE better than her other BE's? it is her highest damaging punisher and combo starter but on block it's just asking to be GI'ed (which can be JG'ed, but still it's unsafe).
her relauncher and B+K BE loop leads to death combos, and there are tons of tricks that go into them to start the loop. I thought these 2 moves and her 6B+K were what made her broken. 44ABE is definitely awesome, but it isn't the move that got her banned.
 
It's better because it's a pseudo safe (because if you try and interrupt it and they read that you get CHed and die), hit confirmable, amazing combo starter that will leave you with at least 50% life or ring out, which surpasses a lot of BEs and even CEs in damage and utility.
 
Ranked Omega's so high because it is such an amazing punisher. Not only that, it has great utility in most of her combos and makes her damage go up to ridiculous amounts. (236A CE, 4b CE, 3b CE DNS B, 66b 4a CE DNS B, 4(A) 6bb CE, etc. I could go on and on and list all of her combos, but you get the point lol.
 
It is still a full screen whiff punish and combos off of several moves. The normal version rings out too so it is pretty good.
 
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