Hate Speech: PATCH NOTE APOCALYPSE

Discussion in 'News & Announcements' started by Hates, Mar 19, 2012.

  • by Hates, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:27 PM
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    Hates Jerk.

    I came across Namco’s official patch notes while sorting through the “incoming” pile here at the Hate Speech News Desk, so this week I’m setting aside my regularly scheduled diatribe in favor of the hot-button issue. Of course, this may also be my last column ever, too. Like many of you, I took one look at the information in the patch notes and realized that life is no longer worth living.

    My perfect, beautiful, wonderful game—one about which I’ve never complained, ever—is now irreparably ruined and soiled. As such, my plan for the day is simple: post this article, make arrangements for bequeathing my cherished collections of celebrity bobbleheads and Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and then driving my car off of the Golden Gate Bridge so I can go out like a boss.

    Actually, wait a second, everybody! THIS JUST IN: as it turns out, losing your mind over this patch actually isn’t the brilliant plan it seems to be. I guess it’s just all in how you choose to read it . . .

    Dealing With Game Updates (And Other Indescribable Traumas)

    In On Death and Dying, Elizabeth Kubler-Ross outlines five stages of grief: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance. We’re all fancy-ass gamers, though, with high-impact, fast paced lifestyles, which means we don’t have time for all that. In its place, I offer a three-step model. It’s fast, it’s sleek, and it’s even a little stylish. We’re talking about the Ferrari of coping mechanisms here, people, so I implore you to at least take it for a test drive.

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    To help make things easier, I'll be providing you with some soothing images, too.

    Step 1: Ditch Your Preconceptions

    It’s easy to lose track of the fact that fighting games hinge entirely upon relative strengths and weaknesses, but it’s true. Nothing is strong or weak in a vacuum. What do you call a character with an i3 unblockable mid that does 99% life in a game where every other character has that same move, but it insta-kills? Unplayable trash. Likewise, it’s easy to look at individual changes, for good or ill, and jump to all manner of erroneous conclusions. The upcoming patch isn’t just nerfing or buffing your favorite move or your favorite character; it’s changing the entire game ecosystem in literally hundreds of tiny ways. Bearing that in mind, it’s important to take precautions against fixating on one or two things to the exclusion of everything else when no single element is as important as the changes in their totality.

    Step 2: Reserve Judgment

    This ought to be obvious, but then again, the Internet ought to facilitate intelligent, reasoned debate instead of just gay jokes and increasingly baroque porn. In any case, it’s wholly unreasonable for anyone to get too high or too low without spending a great deal of time digging deeply into these changes, which is patently impossible before they’ve even been patched into the game. Think for a moment about how much the hive-mind’s opinion has shifted in less than two months. Consider the moving targets that have been tier placements for characters like Viola, Pyrrha Omega, Alpha Patroklos, Nightmare, Astaroth, Maxi, and so on. Games take time to mature. Matchups evolve, nuances arise, and things ultimately shift in effectiveness as we continue refining our gameplay and learning new things. Everyone therefore needs to step back, put your dismay in check, and get back to the business of making things as hard as possible for the other guy. More to the point, most people aren’t playing at a level which really allows for them to make well-reasoned, objective assessments of balance issues. Even the best of us are still deep in the research process. Hell, even if you’re in contention to win every major you enter, it’s still smartest not to blame losses on your character.

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    Here, have a scented candle. They're so relaxing!

    Step 3: Consider the Big Picture

    More important than any single balance change, this update signals a number of larger positive elements about which we should be getting excited. First of all, fuzzy guard, step guard, and backdash canceling are going to be out (by the way, shout outs to the fervent cadre of mouth breathers who insisted that step guard was an intentional feature), which is great news. These were glitches that had the potential to seriously undermine high-level play, and it’s good to see that Namco recognized them as such and took care of business. In fact, all of the system changes look pretty darn good. Second, Namco released a comprehensive list of patch notes, which is relatively unusual for 3D games. This kind of transparency is a very good thing for us not only because it’ll save us a lot of headaches, but because it indicates, once again, a willingness to interface with the community. Lastly, the fact that they’re patching at all is a good thing. Everything thus far points to Namco’s long-term commitment to improving gameplay balance, so it strikes me as exceedingly foolish to think that this patch will be the only revision we’ll see. Everyone needs to keep playing, keep learning, and so on. If your character was unduly hit, have a little faith that it’ll be addressed somewhere down the road rather than going completely nuclear and spamming the boards with your cries of injustice (what would Pat say about that, anyway?). The confluence of an invested dev team and living in an age of downloadable updates means that SCV is a living, changing thing. It’s imperative that we remain open-minded toward balance revisions rather than unceremoniously shitting in the laps of people who are trying to make our game better.

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    Zen rock gardens are always nice when it's time to de-stress.

    So there you have it. Embrace those three steps of grief management and see if you don’t come away feeling a little better. We still have the luxury of playing backseat designer all we want, but it’s best to do it in a way that won’t put anybody at risk for bursting blood vessels. But wait, what’s that? You say it’s still not good enough? You say that game companies should make things better solely through buffs and never with nerfs? I am so, so glad you mentioned that . . .

    Remember that strength and weakness are relative values contingent upon the overall game ecosystem, as mentioned above. While issues relating to raw damage output could potentially be solved exclusively with buffs, those are hardly the whole story. Sometimes it’s not necessarily a move’s damage which makes it problematic, but instead its properties, such as guard meter damage, pushback, combo-ability, counterhit properties, and so on. In the case of a move like Leixia’s WS B BE, for example, buffing the rest of the cast does nothing to change the fact that that move is really, really nasty. Yes, you could potentially give every character an option which would lessen that move’s impact or stuff it entirely , but then you end up introducing a great many more variables into an equation already so complex it can’t be adequately solved. Moreover, even if designers weren’t committed to handling counters on a move by move basis and thus decided to simply dole out more borderline-unfair stuff which could easily break countless more matchups, would anyone be any happier for it? It’s far more efficient and reasonable to remove a little bit of the offending move’s bite, which constitutes a de-facto buff for the entire cast.

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    Woops! I think my fingers slipped and I ended up searching for "mindless, gut-wrenching terror." Honest typo.

    All right, enough of my soapbox for today. Once more, just calm down, be reasonable, and be ruthless. So they changed your character? Big deal. That just means you have to find an even cheaper way to mash people’s heads in.

    Homework:

    Take a deep breath.

    Oh, and if you’re actually excited about any of the upcoming revisions, let me know.

    @Original_Hater
     
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Comments

Discussion in 'News & Announcements' started by Hates, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. LostProvidence
    Yeah, Donte/Hawkeye plays her as a secondary and I said I thought she was one o the best characters in the game, just that not many people put the time into her in 3 and 4 to really get that type o familiarity to her. She was good all around, super safe, had insane damage, and she was evasive. But lemme shut up before I get into an argument with some random naysayer.
    Zyrusticae and Azazel like this.
  2. CrazyYoshimitsu
    I need to guest star in a hate speech. This guy is too good.
  3. D1X
    I just want Kilik back.
  4. KharismaKid
    With all this whining going on, people have seem to forget that Namco will also be improving the already solid netplay of SCV with this patch.
    Zyrusticae, Wandrian, Azazel and 6 others like this.
  5. Hates
    I mentioned Tira being really good in another thread and got exposed for being a scrub who doesn't know anything. =(
    Wolfgang, Zyrusticae, Solo and 4 others like this.
  6. crow_winters
    I remember patch notes with SCIV. They used the same red/cyan color scheme!
  7. Marginal
    I hope that means it's going to actually be stable rather than crapping out 70% of the time.
  8. Hawkeye
    Tira gloomy stance definitely need to be nerf. but they nerfed both stances. 8(
  9. Laswagga
    OMG I'M SORRY. JEEZ.

    D :
  10. H.H.Holmes
    I can use CAS characters in tournaments now? That's awesome.
  11. Twiz
    My ONLY problem with the patch is they didn't fix a majority of the whiffing problems. My poor little voldos BS 66B is still going to whiff on TC moves. T_T

    But here's to hoping it comes with the next patch.
  12. STD
    stfu hates.. they nerfed my tira...and hardly touched pyraa....so i guess tira>pyraa...really nacmo.. really?

    .... leave me alone i'm soo angry>.<
  13. Belial
    TwizidRaven: yeah =(

    STD: Yes, Tira > Pyrrha.

    Hates: I love the patch. Im really glad Namco cares about the game. This is the second best thing happened to series, first being SCV. Great article btw.
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  14. CheeseOfTheDay
    So backdash to guard was glitch? Good to know. But it's still will be in the game you know.
    Also i wouldn't be so happy about it, we don't know how much it will take now to guard. It can be 1 frame more and it can be 15 frames more. For me its a big difference, to big to call it "great news" before knowing actual numbers.

    But, not counting that, path is good imo, they fix buffering system with I didn't like, fuzzy "jump", and some other things. It should be good.

    And just in case, if namco is not that smart, they probably still left step6G, QS4, or backdash A~G. That last one maybe wont be even that handy (still don't know how bd will work now), but it's good to know if someone would like to start a new panic;). Only 1 day left.
  15. Belial
    I already have the patch. wtf 1 day.

    backdash now has 20 frames vulnerability, same as step.
  16. WuHT
    cool. And QS4G and the QS~aG variants are gone I assume ?
  17. Belial
    Actually I could never get QS4G to work before, so idk.

    A_B_K cancel is different if done from step, can no longer be cancelled early, regardless of the input the animation will be somewhat extended, before cancelling. Also, trying to cancel too early will give you moves like 22K , 22B etc as if guard isnt even being seen.
    So I assume the G button has been banned for some number of frames, thus QS4G should also be fixed.

    236~stance cancels are in.
  18. WuHT
    weird, wonder if QS into a grab will always be delayed.
  19. Age_of_Truth
    That would be me. Tira was good but not OP. Where are all the average Tira players overplacing in tournaments? Where are all the top-tier Tira players raping everyone?
    So I guess α-Pat is relatively even stronger now?
  20. Belial
    Dude, I respect you as a player, but you've turned this forum into a lake of salt. Cut it pls. There are no good Tira, ZWEI etc players winning tournaments, bc some character take more effort, skill and research.
    When I came to EVO and France in 2009 nobody even knew RLC stance existed and game was out for more than a year. Mitsu players was also so salty back then, saying hes worse than Amy so no point using him.
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