Just Attacks

You need to sort out your life. =)

Too risky, it never hits grounded and is death on whiff. Use it If they wakeup without a wakeup attack, which you can confirm, most people don't have the balls to attack immediately after waking up into a guard, they're waiting to play off your oki. People can react to it, but the startup for 1AAA and B+K62B44B+K are indistinguishable, mixed up, blocking these two is a guess, they can't be reacted between.

I guess I just need to get them more defensive, because B+K is another attack that I can just never land be cause it is so incredibly slow, but that's another issue entirely.

Alpha is probably the best rushdown character in this game. Your opponents should be playing defensive anyway. If they don't, introduce them to JF Twister. =/

After throwing a strop and giving up on aPat, Ive deck died I'm going to pick him back up and really try and learn these JFs, I can't do any at the moment, that's right none, Im so bad at JFs.

I'm not to bothered about 1aaa and agb but I definitely want to learn JF twister, 1bb and the other one from the ground, I can't remember it at the moment

Edit : not much to be happy about but I can now do FCC 3bb, I think that's the right notation, maybe.
I can also pull off 2143a:b I just can't get the jf version yet. For me that's progress.

Hi Guys,
i am new to SCV, but have plently of training in SF (Ryu).
Currently on my 3rd Day of Pratoklos Training.

Things i found out for
:: - you need to push the A Button just as he would put his weight on his front leg.
If you train this timing the 3rd one comes out naturally - and i guess its the same framedelay between the 1st and 2nd as for the 2nd and 3rd hit.
: - same as above - but its quite hard to see for the combo (:~:)

jft is a joke - gladly i can't feel my finger due to nerve got cut on my index finger :)
:: - i slide from a to b with index and push g nearly simultanious with my middle finger.
stick setup
MadCatz TE - Hitbox Layout
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i mean same as above = same timing with the feet...

A B G A
G K B A+B+K this my layout on stick. Both slide inputs for JFT and AB are top row. Extra B on bottom for 1b:b even though I don't use it lol. This makes both slides very easy.

Well, I never use the B+G button, the a+b+k button, is for easier BE. A+B on right edge for JFT input, i play with mainly index on guard and push other buttons with middle/ring. (Assume my orthodox setup comes from my nerve issue with my index finger)

60frames equals 1 second.
20 = 3 bps [beats per second]
3x60 = 180 bpm


My just frames are improving while listening to this [the 1AAA ones anyway].
After listening to it long enough and turning it off I still do them well.

I've been practicing a load lately and I'm slowly getting it, but I had to get a new controller (old one broke) and it feels horribly different. I've had a hard time just doing Twilight/Dawn Haze. Ugh.

Anyway, I just got 1AAA down, but I still can't get 1BB. I just can't get a feel for it. And my hands get too cold during this season to get my JFTs. Any help here?

The timing for 1B:B is 1 frame long, so it is really difficult to get consistently. Don't worry too much about it. It isn't as necessary as twister, 1AAA and 214 3B:B. As for twister, you really just have find a good setup for yourself and practice A TON. Practice until you're hands blister and bleed. Okay, maybe not that extreme, but you do have to spend a lot of time into his just attacks. There is a reason why he is one of the hardest characters in the game to play, but the reward for that time and effort may be very worth it. 100+ meterless combos? Yes plz

Well I found something very extrange with Sakura Twister JF version....

I'm starting to learn Alpha Pat, and i was training some sakura twister combos, all of us know that sakura twister JF version need a strict input, where you need to slide from A to B in just 1 frame and release A before hitting B, right?.....in practice mode will look something like this, if you do it right....

but when you do it wrong, i mean, not release A button before hitting B, will look something like this in practice mode.....

in this case, you only get a regular Sakura Twister.....but look this video.....

Description of the video above:

1.- Combo 2143 A+B > 2143 B:B > 2143 A:B (correct input for sakura twister JF)

2.- Combo 2143 A+B > 2143 B:B > 2143 A~B (wrong input for sakura twister JF, but still getting the JF version)

My question now is.....If you make a combo with a successful JF(in this case 2143 B:B) before do Sakura Twister, the game is "rewarding" you, with a less strict sakura twister JF???

Discuss XD, and sorry for my bad english

THE best advice i've seen for this JF!

buffering

if you buffer the bad input you have to get normal sakura twister, not JF twister