Just Attacks

Yo, can I use this quote? It's very informative.
I added it to the general strategy thread it still has your name on it, but if you want me to take it down just tell me.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "use this quote". As long as you ain't making money off of my quote then yes, you may use it. Next time you should shorten long reply quotes if and when you use them, especially if you just want to ask a question. It's much easier for mods and it takes up less space.

Check the general strategy thread.

Thanks leaf. Really put that 2143 a:B into perspective. Now if only I could stop getting 2143 A+B

Funny thing is, most times I'm getting separate inputs for A and B and not A+B like I thought I would. But I still can't do JF Twisters on command. XD

Can you do the aB slide too fast or something? Because I've had times in practice when it does the JF version and then I do it just as fast or faster and nothing.

Actually beginning to get it a bit more consistently now without it feeling like total dumb luck(As you said earlier 'Oh that was just a JF twister..."). Just trying to stay extremely cognizant if the 2143 input(Making sure to hold 3) and sliding fast as hell. I'm guessing I wasn't sliding fast enough because I was indeed getting a lot of A+B's.

A little bit different finger positioning as well on my stick. I used to slide all the way from outside A all the way to B, but now I'm almost inbetween A and then go right over to B. I'm getting way more A B's instead of A+B though a bit harder to get that "fast" slide to make the JF twisters come out when I want them too.

I use a pad, so I'm hoping it's not just a "it's ten times harder to do on pad and it'll take you years to master it" kind of situation. XD

Do you slide from A to B and hold B down, or slide across both so that you're not pressing anything at all?

Funny enough I was getting ready to add that this might almost might make take a 2nd look at pad. ALMOST. Since the button sensitivity isn't much of an issue since they are spaced fairly apart on a pad. Compared to if you just LIGHTLY depress a button on stick you can get a command which is probably why I got a ton of A+B's. You would think it would work in your favor most of the time, but in this scenario the buttons being so responsive is slightly problematic(Until I can figure out a consistent solution). I'll have to try it on pad in the morning to see if I have any better luck, but outside looking in I'd imagine this to be easier on pad.

I slide all the way across A and B so that I'm not pressing anything at all.

Maybe I should make a video showing my hands. I am willing to do it on both pad and stick problem is that everything depends on the person. Would a video really help anyone? As far as the peripheral of choice? Pad = Arcade stick in SCV. I prefer an arcade stick just because I find it more enjoyable.

Cheeseoftheday made videos in the early SC4 Days, inputs are still the same...sure you can make a vid if you want, but its basically the same as this:

If you do it if you can, can you make sure to show each one in slow-mo and a first person camera angle for stick? The camera work on the pad stuff was perfect in Cheese's vid, but I had a hard time following what he did on the stick because it was from that top down perspective instead of first person perspective.

The none JF version is punishable which is -23. The Just frame version is only -13. Mostly AA's can punish it or, anyone with a quick poke like Patroklos 236:B

ag:Bx2 ~ 2aA+B+K ~ just frame sakura twister is a very powerful combo. Thought I was dreaming when I seen 155dmg

That is the the last of his JF's I have to master. The input is awkward so I haven't found a suitable way to slide.

Ok so I've picked up Patsuka as a sub today, kind of surprised at how not-difficult his inputs are. The only question I have really is about endurance basically, I can get Twisters near 100% of the time at first, but my fingers get tired and it becomes quite difficult. Am I probably doing something to overexert here or is this a common thing among Patsuka players? I also had to remap to do the ag:B JF properly, I'm not really sure whether that will get me strange looks or not haha. Anyone do that with normal inputs? I find it super easy with 3 buttons in a row but only managed to hit it like once without.

Just keep doing it till it stops hurting

As Ring will testify, I maimed myself over a 4 day tournament in Germany, lol.

I guess I'll just get used to it haha. New motion I guess, I did the same when learning guitar, played 'til my fingers literally bled and kept playing... for 2 weeks. Temporary hurdle even if a painful one then I suppose.

I've recorded the timings down for some of the JF moves but I need to find a site to upload it to where people can listen to the timing online in a playlist all on one page and have the option to download. Anyone know of a good place?

And I realise I have the same avatar as AlphaDragoon lol. This is going to be confusing!