Guys I think its kinda frightening to be messing with her at this stage. I am biased cos I mostly played her in IV and I manage alright with what limited stuff she has in it. But seeing the vids there is a lot goin on already, lotsa good additions and possible mix up stuff. An amazing Critical Edge. Do we really want her to end up a messy toy box? I'm personally happy with the additions so far. Tira's point is that she is not linear, her learning curve is erratic and bumpy, much like her personality. Accessible? no thanks. By comparison Ivy is in the foetal position with her newly raped up move list. Woman sold out to the man, sure she was top tier and all but now I don't know how to place her. Is there gonna be anything to learn or will she just be mash > result.