4A+B punishment list (Properties: TC & backstep whiff punish)

FunkeXMix

FunkeXMix

[09] Warrior
Hey Maximizers!

I thought it would be good for us to have a list of situations where to use the tech crouching backstepping whiff punisher 4A+B 'Rage of Pleasure'.

Variations: (dmg values based on counter hit, which is how this one should hit most of the time. I just set attack to counter, perhaps the follow up dmg value gets wrong, correct me if im wrong)

4A+B, 66 B+K = 84 dmg

4A+B, 66b = 80 dmg, stance.

4A+B, 11,77B = 94 dmg, slightly better frames on wakeup.


Pushback moves that potentially lead to opponents whiffing on retalitaion:

1A = Creates a lot of range between you, if back stepping after hit it's almost impossible to reach you.

6B = Good pushback on block.


Punishment list:

Kilik

3B, KK = If not directly up close it will avoid the second kick and counter.

Raphael

Anti prep:

General note. WS B+K is excellent against most close encounter prep gimmicks. For longer range you can distance yourself so that his longer range prep options hit if you stand there but miss if you do 4A+B.
 
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Against astaroth.

It is typical for a lot of them to 4B gb(headbutt GB move is what it was in SC4 I assume its the same), then into a just frame throw. after a block 4B gb, maxis 4A+B makes the throw whiff (so long as your not at point blank range) and asta is eating 94dmg if you throw in a 11B follow up.

I find that the 11B follow up has some axis issues but is my favorite gauranteed damage follow up.
 
Good point, but I think it is totally necessary to do that on read not just lash it our every time he does 4b gb. He could do 6b just as easily and get major damage.
 
i've been having some success against rugi's stance. since most mist atks are high, 4A+B beats everything but MIST KB.if you can react fast enough it beats rugis 4B (* it only beats 4B if you do it during 4Bs start-up since if you do it too late, the stab will hit ya)
 
Was goofin around last night found some interesting stuff:

(oppenent back to wall):
4A+B, 6A+B BE, PSL 2, BL K BE, W!, 44B, RC AB BE (Whats weird bout this is the opp cannot block the 44B but he can block the RC AB. but still cool to watch)

(opponent back to wall)
4A+B, 6A+B, PSL 2, BL K BE, W! CE for 166 damage all gauranteed.

Maybe your cooler than me and knew these already. And if you did, your an asshole for not posting it up. If no one knew....then your welcome
 
Hot Rod Dave said:
Was goofin around last night found some interesting stuff:

(oppenent back to wall):
4A+B, 6A+B BE, PSL 2, BL K BE, W!, 44B, RC AB BE (Whats weird bout this is the opp cannot block the 44B but he can block the RC AB. but still cool to watch)

(opponent back to wall)
4A+B, 6A+B, PSL 2, BL K BE, W! CE for 166 damage all gauranteed.

Maybe your cooler than me and knew these already. And if you did, your an asshole for not posting it up. If no one knew....then your welcome
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i made a combo video about wall combos xD
 
IRM said:
im older and im not a bitch HRD see me son!!!
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Are you sure? Cause as I read that, I see you pounding your fists on the ground screamin "waaaaaa IM NOT A BITCH waaaaaaaaaa"

and I dont know what it is Im supposed to be "seeing". Must be one of you youngins weird sayings that I dont get.
 
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