Which SC Characters do you see as losers?

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HydroJames

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For whatever reason, whether for game-play, story, combination, or anything else, name a Soul Calibur character and explain why he/she is a loser.
 
Well, obviously pretty much all SCV players see Patroklos and Pyrrha as terrible characters, because the SCV story is all about them and it sucks. I hate Patroklos, but I like Pyrrha, because I think her personality is great... For a fucking Final Fantasy game, not a bloody fighting game. I don't even need to explain why Patroklos sucks, because WiiDude said it perfectly in his Top 10 hated SC characters.
 
linkorz said:
ZWEI, for obvious reasons.
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What obvious reasons are they? He's a badass. His style is slick and he has some swaggy quotes. ZWEI may have been (as much as we know) killed in the story but this was after saving Viola and helping Seigfried in the malfested battle. Also he beat up Patroklos which made him come to his senses with his true fighting style.

... Oh shit ZWEI basically helped bring the 2 strongest characters in the game
Into existence... But who cares he's still awesome! ><
 
Draggonnfs said:
Well, obviously pretty much all SCV players see Patroklos and Pyrrha as terrible characters, because the SCV story is all about them and it sucks. I hate Patroklos, but I like Pyrrha, because I think her personality is great... For a fucking Final Fantasy game, not a bloody fighting game. I don't even need to explain why Patroklos sucks, because WiiDude said it perfectly in his Top 10 hated SC characters.
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I mean, Pat and Pyrrha happen to be some of the best characters in the game. Hardly losers.

Draggonnfs said:
ZWEI is one of very few new characters in SCV I actually liked, he is cool. I see no "obvious reasons".
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http://8wayrun.com/threads/soul-calibur-v-usa-tier-list-s.18931/
 
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Oh mer gud u tia haw

And on a serious note Damp doesnt even make it on half those tier lists, If anyone is the loser its him Literally imo all you have as vaible options is 11B, 33B, grab range, CE, standard pokes BB, 2A, 6B, 2K, and 623B when it doesnt just fail and you have to pay out for him aswell in the form of DLC. You woulda thought with all that coning to get rich he would spend it on being top tier

Actually tell a lie Damp was on all the tier lists higher than ZWEI except 1 lol
But honestly ZWEI just has more things going for him competitively imo
 
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linkorz said:
http://8wayrun.com/threads/soul-calibur-v-usa-tier-list-s.18931/
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Now I don't particularly like getting into tier list discussions since I don't generally believe in them, and all the more since how balanced SCV actually is...but I just wanna throw out how ZWEI 3-1'd maxous Voldo, the same Voldo that triumphed over Lolo and earned 2nd place at EMS

Draggonnfs said:
For fuck's sake, shove that fucking tier list up your ass.
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Now one can appreciate the enthusiasm, but it simple things like that that lead to forums, notoriously tier-forums, being locked off, plus you said something along the lines of Flawlesssithlord being good...so keep that jazz in check dood
 
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ZER0 said:
Now I don't particularly like getting into tier list discussions since I don't generally believe in them, and all the more since how balanced SCV actually is...but I just wanna throw out how ZWEI 3-0'd maxous Voldo, the same Voldo that triumphed over Lolo and earned 2nd place at EMS

Brap Brap! The score was 3 - 1 to myself vs Maxou btw
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Well first off, I just wanna say that I actually really like ZWEI. I think he's a total badass, and he's honestly my favorite character in the game to play. I would main the shit out of him, if he wasn't absolutely terrible.
I was aware of that victory, but I don't think it remotely justifies saying ZWEI is remotely viable. FFS, he doesn't even have decent meterless punishment until i19, with meter-using punishers at i17. His normals are absurdly slow for like no reason, and his AA doesn't even jail. Pretty much all of his EIN setups are gimmicks with an answer to easily snuff them out. As much as I like the character, he is unreasonably bad.
 
I would say Seong Mi-na is a loser, from both a game-play and story standpoint...

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From a story standpoint:
  • Dragged home by Hwang... Twice...
  • 0 - 2 record against playable characters. Total record is 1 - 3.
    • Was defeated by Ivy, who has a spotty record herself (3 - 4), during the events of Soul Calibur.
    • Was defeated by Edge Master during the events of Soul Calibur III.
    • Her only win was against some random "brawny man" in Soul Calibur III.
    • Was defeated by Kong Xiuqiang, whom she has found as an alcoholic on the streets, during the events of Soul Calibur. She didn't even land a single hit.
  • Let Yun-Seong slip under her nose to continue his search for Soul Edge in Soul Calibur IV.
From a game-play standpoint:
  • I feel that one of biggest things that holds her back is having to be range dependent. She constantly has to space her opponent, keeping them at tip-range where she is most effective. Compare her to other long-range character such as Nightmare and Astaroth who have no issue with sweet/sour spots and will why people place her on their tier list as not just a low, but bottom-tier (based on her latest incarnation in SCIV).
  • If you're playing to win, there is no good reason as to why you should pick her over Kilik. While Kilik is gifted with speed, safety, mix-ups, and combo ability, Seong Mi-na is not very fast, unsafe, linear, doesn't get a lot of combo opportunities. She often comes off as the poor man's Kilik.
 
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linkorz said:
Well first off, I just wanna say that I actually really like ZWEI. I think he's a total badass, and he's honestly my favorite character in the game to play. I would main the shit out of him, if he wasn't absolutely terrible.
I was aware of that victory, but I don't think it remotely justifies saying ZWEI is remotely viable. FFS, he doesn't even have decent meterless punishment until i19, with meter-using punishers at i17. His normals are absurdly slow for like no reason, and his AA doesn't even jail. Pretty much all of his EIN setups are gimmicks with an answer to easily snuff them out. As much as I like the character, he is unreasonably bad.
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His puinshment isnt his strong point As he isnt a strong blockpunish character i mean when in range he has a good meterless i15 option with 4KB for a knockdown, when you get -14s its basically AA which is still 26 damage +6 on hit which is about a standard punish for a nongreek/Cervy. Ofc for that i12 and below (which not alot of other characters have either) you can use the -12 for a mix up. AA does jail, A hold doesnt. Successful Max charge holds from spacing, 3B, 6A CH, 4B BE, B+K BE are not gimmicks they limit your opponents options and run reverse mix ups with them. hes viable.
 
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His AA being i14 is absolutely unreasonable. A single frame may seem small, but it makes a hell of a difference. For example, he can't even AA cerv or Leixia 3B, he has to K. I feel like at some point during development he was stupid OP, so instead they made him unreasonably bad.
 
she stabbed him knocked him off a castle, but SC is anime enough that he is probably alive
 
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