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optymuss
optymuss
1) she is supposed to be fast. Look at what she uses as a weapon. 2) She is actually unsafe. her fastest horizontals are -10 average. her fastest vertical is punishable by the all the cast and is high (4B). Her best mid horizontal is punished by all the cast and negative on NH, but TCs (3A).
optymuss
optymuss
Her BB is i15, 1 frame slower than 4B and and compared to other characters mid games, her mid game as a whole isnt good. Its easy to tell between BB and BK once you get used to the animation, but you have to alot of focus, thats hard in competitive play.
optymuss
optymuss
Every character in the game has mix ups.....seig has stance mix ups and if you step while he is in stance he can get away with a cancel. He will then you use that to condition you into attacking and start and offense in a stance. Natsu has a poor mix up game outside of PO, poor grab game outside of PO, and a poor pressure game outside of PO..this is what PO focuses on...
optymuss
optymuss
3) she is supposed to deal good damage....she can be easily be crippled by good backstep. her best moves arefA+B, 66K, and 66B. those are unsafe on block. A+B is sucide against a backstepper. 66B can deal SG dmaage overtime but you can get punished by a CE. if they cant CE punish then they can still outspace you and their guage can recover overtime.
optymuss
optymuss
not to mention if 66B hits at tip and breaks their guard, she cant do much because of spacing. A=B is suicide due to giving the opponent a free mix up if blocked. nforget that even if you she does 66B4, what can she do? the transition can be killed by mid range moves and CEs. once we are adpted to identifying PO transiitons, it will be easy to kill PO on blocked transitions.
optymuss
optymuss
66B BE is good, and he rbest advancing tool at long range. if you condition them to adapt to 66B at tip you might score the second hit of 66B BE, but a person with good reactions can easily kill it.
optymuss
optymuss
so, to sum it up, Cons: 1) poor grab game outside of PO, 2) hard to get inside for her, 3) can only deal pressure at close range, 4) doesnt have the best tools to advance at long range. 5) PO can only be accessed with conditioning and on hit. Pros: 1) best antistep in the game, 2) has good pressure game if PO is used correctly, 3) damage is very good.
optymuss
optymuss
so now that i have given you all of this...how could she deal with seigfred, nightmare (who has a very good backstep). astaroth who can kill you with his superior damage and put up good zoning, Hilde, who can pressure you with her zoning and keep away, Raphael, who can counter all of her horizontals and kill her advancing moves at long range.....there are other, but those will be the most difficult.
optymuss
optymuss
how would she deal with these if she was nerfed? Also, idk how they do patches but if they are looking at the perspective of balacne as a whole they will either: 1) nerf natsu and nerf everyone else or 2) nerf natsu's dmaage and then make her more safe in exchange.
optymuss
optymuss
i personally think that natsu is fine.
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FallenAngelII
They don't need to nerf everyone else if they nerf Natsu. That's stupid talk.
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FallenAngelII
1) Who cares about how she's "supposed" to be? The fact that she's so fast is a strength.
2) Why are you whining about how her "best" moves are unsafe? They're not meant to be used as pressure! They're meant to be used as mix-ups and/or punishers.
3) She's got a bad mix-up game? You're whining about this to a Leixia main, really?
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FallenAngelII
4) She's "supposed" to have good damage? Why? And why does it matter? The fact that she does is another one of her strengths.
5) You're not supposed to spam moves which can be backstepped!
6) That's a whole lot of whining for the BEST CHARACTER IN THE GAME.
optymuss
optymuss
No everyone knows that the best characters are nightmare and xiba now...lol
optymuss
optymuss
I thought that we can have a matured discussion about this character. All be is whining though and how she is the best character.
optymuss
optymuss
I can cripple a character because of my style of play. I can't use her though because my style doesn't match so well with her. The beat character is based on the best player ...
optymuss
optymuss
Ithis is what I mean by negativity and hasty decisions effecting the community. No one will understand that because they think I am being tier agnostic .
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FallenAngelII
We are done here, because you actually used "The best character is based on the best player" as an argument. Now go away.
optymuss
optymuss
I dont feel like rambling about balance ans how the developers worked hard to satisfy us ignorant players.
optymuss
optymuss
So I'm just going to say that of a character is broken to you, just make an anti character research. Compare other characters to that character and list their pros and cons.