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This applies to 66A* as well. Although you have to spend 2 bars to get 121 damage instead of 1.5 for 111.

6B+K. I see it mentioned almost nowhere. I'm assuming there's serious issues with it(sure looks like it from a little use) but are there any gimmicks/combo's/followups? At the very least it seems like you can hold the followup FOREVER. You can certainly use it to set up unblockables with...

Is there any recent tourney footage of apat players? I always hear how top tier he is, but then never see him even in the top 8. I feel like I must be missing something. Also i'm curious to know if people are using 4B and 6B or if I should just be using 2362B or 2366B in all cases instead...

First a question- Who do you play in SF or any other fighter for that matter? Second question- How good do you want to get? Third question- How much do you mind losing to learn? Short reviews(i do not know too much about everyone but this is the best I can give.)- Hilde- Somewhat rewarding...

Staples- http://8wayrun.com/threads/alpha-pats-top-10-moves.10455/ As far as apat goes he's kinda like a rushdown character with lots of 1 frame links(SF mindset). Your goal is to get in their face and give them hell. Once he's in he's got 33B/2363B, 66B/236B, A+G, and 214B+G which can all...

Yeah i always forget to test that. Still I can't even begin to think of a setup for the unblockable. Maybe if you've got them in a corner somewhere, but I'm not seeing it otherwise.

Since it's been brought up List of moves which seem essentially useless- 4A- Gain almost nothing on hit/block/counterhit and is VERY hard to hit with due to the large backstep and short range. Whiffing it leaves you wide open. 44B- Again super short range with relatively little gain even on...

I'm always hesitant to suggest BT B+K:B on this site simply because while i love the damn thing it has this nasty habit of flat out whiffing on block. The B+K will connect and the guard break will breeze merrily through the air as they relocate your vital organs.

That's basically about as good as you're going to get. Usually a nice punish for a whiffed move that's easier than some of the other aPat shenanigans. That said the 2A+B animation looks surprisingly similar to the B+K animation in its first few frames. If you've trained them to block 2A+B low...

I can see use for Raph, Aeon, and Zwei CE's. Even if it's mostly just combo fodder. I'm curious as to why voldo's is higher though when i cant ever see a time i'd want to use his CE over BE's. Noting that i suck with voldo.

Like Zas, Yun, and relic stance mitsu so i got nailed as well. Playing apat now, but it's hard to say anyone gives quite the feel zas did. That said if you can stand the knowledge and execution levels viola and ZWEI do have similar feelings at times.

Basically just another notation for Twister/2143a:B. As it stands right now these are the moves i've found literally almost NO use for in aPat's movelist- 4A- WAY to risky to land. It spaces sorta ok, but it feels like most the cast can smack you for it and the backstep is so large you...

Awesome list. Are you purposely leaving out the character specific ones? Namely anything that whiffs vs small females who left tech? I only ask because I see some of his most efficient damage missing.

8A+B, B is tricky which is kinda why i'd like someone to test the combo i posted. 3B CH, 8A+B, B, BT B+K:B I can do this against people online but as always they rarely ukemi, and I can't figure out a way to set it up in training mode. Normally i'd just record the CPU doing it and test...

Viola is a lot of character knowledge, although I have no idea how much better she is after the patch. Just learn where and when you can, or should, tech. Ukemi is pretty important against her if i recall correctly. Do your best to get in safely and know your long range options so you can be a...

isn't apats twister i12, and a hell of a lot more damage than his AA? You can buffer it too so punishing most stuff with it is more than possible. Better range than his AA as well.

Which means if you can't land the 1B:B, don't play apat. There are plenty of people in many fighting game communities who've shown that you can get this sort of link down with something like a 95%+ success rate(don't forget you can double tap it). It's just not the majority of the player...

Execution barriers strike me as the absolute worst possible way to balance him though. I can almost do everything he has no problem, and reliably and I KNOW i'm not that good. Better players will get it down. You balance mostly for tournaments and to make sure your scrubs don't cry too hard...

I dislike the 1B:B change a ton. It's just going to make it harder for people with poor execution to play him right(and I felt he was at a good difficulty as is). Top level players will rarely be harmed by the change. And then giving the double 1B:B a dmg buff? The hell? Either way seems...

On twister- I'd say it depends A LOT on the move in question. Second+ hits of strings and moves with long blockstun that can still be punished are MUCH easier to punish even if it's only 12 frames because you can buffer the 214 fairly early(maybe 20 frames +?). If you buffer it right you can...