Dullyanna
[10] Knight
I'm borrowing this over from Calibur Forum, because it's nifty, and prolly an essential part to any semblance of high level Yun play. All credit goes to Vintoks, so thank him, not me.
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Crane Transition Analysis
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This list is to help show you options vs. typical retaliations while in crane.
Your main defensive options:
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CR>B+K~G: Jumps over most attacks and puts you in BT~FC; this move will get you out of a jam vs. people who are familiar with (and exploit) crane's weaknesses (crane is weak vs. 2A, 2K, 3K, Throw). If they whiff basic pokes you will be at mild disadvantage in BT, if they commit to any canned string (AA_BB etc) you get a free BT poke, or mixup of your choice.
CR>A+K: TC under highs and throws; this is strong because it TC’s early, has good wakes, and covers step well (there is hole to left step but step timing is specific).
CR>B: interrupter and B breaker; this move is key because of its range and potential for CH combos, it also helps force hesitation.
CR>K: TJ in early frames; a key pressure move due to its (and CR>K:G’s) frames, it also has good CH damage potential to help force hesitation.
Frame Data reference for "most" of the typical moves in each category:
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As range i10~16
Bs range i15~17
2As range i14~15
2Ks mostly i15
3Ks range i14~18
Throws i16~17
Format Example:
6[A]
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* ~CR>B trades with i19* (fastest interrupt option)
A: CR>A+K evades i11 (TCs under Xianghuas A)/ CR>B+K evades i18 (Jumps Siegs A)
B: Auto evades all (all Bs)/ CR>B+K evades i18 (Jumps Maxi_Sophies 2A/2K: CR>K evades all (all 2A_2K')/ CR>B+K evades all (all 2A_2Ks)
3K: CR>B+K evades i18 (Jumps Rocks 3K)
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw (These avoid an immediate throw retaliation)
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CRANE LIST ON BLOCK:
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6[A]
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* ~CR>B trades with i19*
A: CR>A+K evades i11/ CR>B+K evades i18
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i18
2A/2K: CR>K evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i18
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw
WS[A]
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* ~CR>B trades with i16, ~CR>K_8K_2K trades with i19*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i16
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>B+K evades all/ *CR>K TJ frames come too early to be practical
3K: CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B beats throw
6
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* ~CR>B trades with i19*
A: CR>A+K evades i11/ CR>B+K evades i19
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i18
2A/2K: CR>K evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i18
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw
2BK
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* ~CR>B trades with i18*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i18
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i16
2A/2K: CR>K evasion is *char dependent (list pending)/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i18
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw
33 (~BT version)
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* Auto evade is not applicable in BT CR*
A: CR>K evades most A's
B: CR>K evades most B's
2A/2K: CR>K evades all
3K: CR>K evades most 3K's
Throw: CR>K evades most throws
33 (~FT version)
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* ~CR>B trades with i23*
A: CR>A+K evades i15/ CR>B+K evades i24
B: Auto evades i18/ CR>B+K evades i24
2A/2K: *Most characters will be out of 2A/2K range
3K: *Most chars will be out of 3K range (list pending)
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw *Most chars will be out of throw range
3[K]
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* ~CR>B trades with i15, ~CR>K_8K_2K trades with i18*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i16
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>B+K evades all/ *CR>K TJ frames come too early to be practical
3K CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B beats throw
1KK~G
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* ~CR>B trades with i38*
A: CR>A+K evades i31/ CR>B+K evades ~i32
B: Auto evades i18/ CR>B+K evades ~i32
2A/2K: Unavoidable
3K: Unavoidable
Throw: Unavoidable
33[K]
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* ~CR>B trades with i20*
A: CR>A+K evades i12/ CR>B+K evades i20
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i17
2A/2K: CR>K evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i20
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw
CR>A
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* ~CR>B trades with i15, ~CR>K_8K_2K trades with i18*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i15
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>B+K evades all/ *CR>K TJ frames come too early to be practical
3K CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B beats throw
CR>K:G
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* ~CR>B breaks i11, ~CR>K_8K trades with i14, ~CR>2K trades with i15*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i11
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>K trades with i14/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B_CR>K_CR>8K_CR>2K beats throw
CR>K
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* ~CR>B trades with i15, ~CR>K_8K_2K trades with i18*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i15
B: Auto evades all/CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>B+K evades all/ *CR>K TJ frames come too early to be practical
3K: CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B beats throw
CR>2KK (Both hits blocked)
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* ~CR>B trades with i20*
A: CR>A+K evades i12/ CR>B+K evades i19
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i19
2A/2K: CR>K evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i18
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_*CR>2KK beats throw
*Normally the knockback will keep you out of throw range, unless you are near an edge
CR>2KK (2nd hit ducked)
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* ~CR>B beats ~i35?*
A: CR>A+K evades i26/ CR>B+K evades ~i29
B: Auto evades i21/ CR>B+K evades ~i29
2A/2K: Unavoidable
3K: Unavoidable
Throw: Unavoidable
CR>A+K
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A: Unavoidable
B: Auto evades all *Except Amy's 6B and char specific exceptions: Nightmare's WSB, Asta_Rock_Sieg's 4B, etc/ CR>B+K evades ~i32
2A/2K: 2As are unavoidable *Most characters will be out of 2K range
3K: Unavoidable
Throw: Unavoidable *Except for chars out of throw range: Soph, Amy, Hilde, Mina, Cervy, Zaz
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Notes:
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CR>K TJ frames are early in the animation so it is possible to be interrupted by a low or s-low attack partway through the animation, it is also very vulnerable to throws. This is why CR>K TJ is not effective with certain transitions.
CR>B+K is vulnerable to certain moves (like jumping attacks) at impact frames different than indicated on the list.
CR>A+K is vulnerable to crouch throws off of any transition.
Pending list of all B moves that Yun CANNOT Crane auto evade (help appreciated)
Pending list of all A or K moves that Yun CAN Crane auto evade (help appreciated)
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CRANE LIST ON HIT:
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6[A]
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WS[A]
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K trades with i10
CR>8K trades with i10
CR>2KK trades with i10
CR>A+K trades with i15
CR>A+B trades with i15
CR>A trades with i18
6
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K trades with i12
CR>8K trades with i12
CR>2KK trades with i13
CR>A+K trades with i17
CR>A+B trades with i17
CR>A trades with i19
2BK
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K trades with i12
CR>8K trades with i12
CR>2KK trades with i13
CR>A+K trades with i17
CR>A+B trades with i17
CR>A trades with i19
33
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3[K]
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K Uninterruptable
CR>8K Uninterruptable
CR>2KK Uninterruptable
CR>A+K Uninterruptable *(except for Taki's 3K)
CR>A+B trades with i13
CR>A trades with i16
1KK~G (On Hit)
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* ~CR>B trades with i32*
A: CR>A+K evades i25/ CR>B+K evades ~i30
B: Auto evades all *Except Amy's 6B and char specific exceptions: Nm’s WSB, Asta_Rock_Sieg’s 4B, etc/ CR>B+K evades ~i32
2A/2K: Unavoidable
3K: Unavoidable
Throw: Unavoidable
33_99[K]
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K trades with i10
CR>8K trades with i10
CR>2KK trades with i11
CR>A+K trades with i15
CR>A+B trades with i15
CR>A trades with i18
CR>A
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CR>K:G
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K Uninterruptable
CR>8K Uninterruptable
CR>2KK Uninterruptable
CR>A+K Uninterruptable
CR>A+B Uninterruptable
CR>A trades with i11
CR>K
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K Uninterruptable
CR>8K Uninterruptable
CR>2KK Uninterruptable
CR>A+K Uninterruptable
CR>A+B trades with i10
CR>A trades with i13
CR>2KK
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K Uninterruptable
CR>8K Uninterruptable
CR>2KK Uninterruptable
CR>A+K trades with i14
CR>A+B trades with i14
CR>A trades with i17
*Note: CR>2KK 2nd hit may wiff vs. Talim
CR>A+K
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Crane Transition Analysis
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This list is to help show you options vs. typical retaliations while in crane.
Your main defensive options:
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CR>B+K~G: Jumps over most attacks and puts you in BT~FC; this move will get you out of a jam vs. people who are familiar with (and exploit) crane's weaknesses (crane is weak vs. 2A, 2K, 3K, Throw). If they whiff basic pokes you will be at mild disadvantage in BT, if they commit to any canned string (AA_BB etc) you get a free BT poke, or mixup of your choice.
CR>A+K: TC under highs and throws; this is strong because it TC’s early, has good wakes, and covers step well (there is hole to left step but step timing is specific).
CR>B: interrupter and B breaker; this move is key because of its range and potential for CH combos, it also helps force hesitation.
CR>K: TJ in early frames; a key pressure move due to its (and CR>K:G’s) frames, it also has good CH damage potential to help force hesitation.
Frame Data reference for "most" of the typical moves in each category:
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As range i10~16
Bs range i15~17
2As range i14~15
2Ks mostly i15
3Ks range i14~18
Throws i16~17
Format Example:
6[A]
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* ~CR>B trades with i19* (fastest interrupt option)
A: CR>A+K evades i11 (TCs under Xianghuas A)/ CR>B+K evades i18 (Jumps Siegs A)
B: Auto evades all (all Bs)/ CR>B+K evades i18 (Jumps Maxi_Sophies 2A/2K: CR>K evades all (all 2A_2K')/ CR>B+K evades all (all 2A_2Ks)
3K: CR>B+K evades i18 (Jumps Rocks 3K)
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw (These avoid an immediate throw retaliation)
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CRANE LIST ON BLOCK:
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6[A]
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* ~CR>B trades with i19*
A: CR>A+K evades i11/ CR>B+K evades i18
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i18
2A/2K: CR>K evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i18
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw
WS[A]
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* ~CR>B trades with i16, ~CR>K_8K_2K trades with i19*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i16
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>B+K evades all/ *CR>K TJ frames come too early to be practical
3K: CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B beats throw
6
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* ~CR>B trades with i19*
A: CR>A+K evades i11/ CR>B+K evades i19
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i18
2A/2K: CR>K evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i18
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw
2BK
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* ~CR>B trades with i18*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i18
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i16
2A/2K: CR>K evasion is *char dependent (list pending)/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i18
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw
33 (~BT version)
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* Auto evade is not applicable in BT CR*
A: CR>K evades most A's
B: CR>K evades most B's
2A/2K: CR>K evades all
3K: CR>K evades most 3K's
Throw: CR>K evades most throws
33 (~FT version)
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* ~CR>B trades with i23*
A: CR>A+K evades i15/ CR>B+K evades i24
B: Auto evades i18/ CR>B+K evades i24
2A/2K: *Most characters will be out of 2A/2K range
3K: *Most chars will be out of 3K range (list pending)
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw *Most chars will be out of throw range
3[K]
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* ~CR>B trades with i15, ~CR>K_8K_2K trades with i18*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i16
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>B+K evades all/ *CR>K TJ frames come too early to be practical
3K CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B beats throw
1KK~G
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* ~CR>B trades with i38*
A: CR>A+K evades i31/ CR>B+K evades ~i32
B: Auto evades i18/ CR>B+K evades ~i32
2A/2K: Unavoidable
3K: Unavoidable
Throw: Unavoidable
33[K]
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* ~CR>B trades with i20*
A: CR>A+K evades i12/ CR>B+K evades i20
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i17
2A/2K: CR>K evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i20
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K beats throw
CR>A
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* ~CR>B trades with i15, ~CR>K_8K_2K trades with i18*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i15
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>B+K evades all/ *CR>K TJ frames come too early to be practical
3K CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B beats throw
CR>K:G
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* ~CR>B breaks i11, ~CR>K_8K trades with i14, ~CR>2K trades with i15*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i11
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>K trades with i14/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B_CR>K_CR>8K_CR>2K beats throw
CR>K
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* ~CR>B trades with i15, ~CR>K_8K_2K trades with i18*
A: CR>A+K evades all/ CR>B+K evades i15
B: Auto evades all/CR>B+K evades all
2A/2K: CR>B+K evades all/ *CR>K TJ frames come too early to be practical
3K: CR>B+K evades all
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_CR>B beats throw
CR>2KK (Both hits blocked)
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* ~CR>B trades with i20*
A: CR>A+K evades i12/ CR>B+K evades i19
B: Auto evades all/ CR>B+K evades i19
2A/2K: CR>K evades all/ CR>B+K evades all
3K: CR>B+K evades i18
Throw: CR>A+K_CR>B+K_*CR>2KK beats throw
*Normally the knockback will keep you out of throw range, unless you are near an edge
CR>2KK (2nd hit ducked)
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* ~CR>B beats ~i35?*
A: CR>A+K evades i26/ CR>B+K evades ~i29
B: Auto evades i21/ CR>B+K evades ~i29
2A/2K: Unavoidable
3K: Unavoidable
Throw: Unavoidable
CR>A+K
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A: Unavoidable
B: Auto evades all *Except Amy's 6B and char specific exceptions: Nightmare's WSB, Asta_Rock_Sieg's 4B, etc/ CR>B+K evades ~i32
2A/2K: 2As are unavoidable *Most characters will be out of 2K range
3K: Unavoidable
Throw: Unavoidable *Except for chars out of throw range: Soph, Amy, Hilde, Mina, Cervy, Zaz
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Notes:
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CR>K TJ frames are early in the animation so it is possible to be interrupted by a low or s-low attack partway through the animation, it is also very vulnerable to throws. This is why CR>K TJ is not effective with certain transitions.
CR>B+K is vulnerable to certain moves (like jumping attacks) at impact frames different than indicated on the list.
CR>A+K is vulnerable to crouch throws off of any transition.
Pending list of all B moves that Yun CANNOT Crane auto evade (help appreciated)
Pending list of all A or K moves that Yun CAN Crane auto evade (help appreciated)
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CRANE LIST ON HIT:
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6[A]
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x
WS[A]
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K trades with i10
CR>8K trades with i10
CR>2KK trades with i10
CR>A+K trades with i15
CR>A+B trades with i15
CR>A trades with i18
6
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K trades with i12
CR>8K trades with i12
CR>2KK trades with i13
CR>A+K trades with i17
CR>A+B trades with i17
CR>A trades with i19
2BK
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K trades with i12
CR>8K trades with i12
CR>2KK trades with i13
CR>A+K trades with i17
CR>A+B trades with i17
CR>A trades with i19
33
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x
3[K]
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K Uninterruptable
CR>8K Uninterruptable
CR>2KK Uninterruptable
CR>A+K Uninterruptable *(except for Taki's 3K)
CR>A+B trades with i13
CR>A trades with i16
1KK~G (On Hit)
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* ~CR>B trades with i32*
A: CR>A+K evades i25/ CR>B+K evades ~i30
B: Auto evades all *Except Amy's 6B and char specific exceptions: Nm’s WSB, Asta_Rock_Sieg’s 4B, etc/ CR>B+K evades ~i32
2A/2K: Unavoidable
3K: Unavoidable
Throw: Unavoidable
33_99[K]
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K trades with i10
CR>8K trades with i10
CR>2KK trades with i11
CR>A+K trades with i15
CR>A+B trades with i15
CR>A trades with i18
CR>A
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x
CR>K:G
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K Uninterruptable
CR>8K Uninterruptable
CR>2KK Uninterruptable
CR>A+K Uninterruptable
CR>A+B Uninterruptable
CR>A trades with i11
CR>K
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K Uninterruptable
CR>8K Uninterruptable
CR>2KK Uninterruptable
CR>A+K Uninterruptable
CR>A+B trades with i10
CR>A trades with i13
CR>2KK
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CR>B Uninterruptable
CR>K Uninterruptable
CR>8K Uninterruptable
CR>2KK Uninterruptable
CR>A+K trades with i14
CR>A+B trades with i14
CR>A trades with i17
*Note: CR>2KK 2nd hit may wiff vs. Talim
CR>A+K
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