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Thanks to Ring's awesome efforts he managed to save the frame data for Soulcalibur II characters before the old site was shut down, and now we can display it for you to see.
The next section covers slightly more advanced frame data where the recovery time may vary slightly:
This section shows the differences between recovery frames after landing an attack on normal hit, counter hit, crouched hit, grounded hit or the recovery frames after your attack is blocked or blocked while rising:
Ring said:
The next section covers slightly more advanced frame data where the recovery time may vary slightly:
Ring said:
This section shows the differences between recovery frames after landing an attack on normal hit, counter hit, crouched hit, grounded hit or the recovery frames after your attack is blocked or blocked while rising:
And finally this section highlights the differences when using Ivy's different stances:Ring said:----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Block/Hit Data
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H = regular hit
C = counter hit
D = crouched hit
G = grounded hit
B = blocked
R = blocked while rising
Frame advantage is a fluctuating number. The amount varies with the moment of impact. Your recovery time starts as soon as you've input a move. Your opponents hit / block stun starts from the impact frame. Therefore, the later you hit your opponent during the animation of a move, the more advantage / less disadvantage you end up with. Try to touch your opponent with the tip of the sword / foot for maximal advantage / minimal disadvantage.
Example:
A
H +5~6
B -5~-4
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close range / early impact:
H +5
B -5
far range / late impact:
H +6
B -4
Moves with a block recovery of B -11 or worse are considered unsafe and may give your opponent free attacks.
Example:
9B
B -17
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Guard possible from frame 17+ after opponent's recovery
= Ivy cannot block attacks of speed i16 or faster.
Attack possible 17 frames after opponent's recovery
= all attacks add +17 to their base speed, i12 K will trade hits with opp's attack of speed i29 etc.
Note that blocking low or crouching take an additional frame of recovery. In the same example, Ivy cannot crouch or block low any attacks of speed i17 or faster. Moreover, it is impossible to suffer a crouched hit by medium hitting attacks of speed i17.
Analogeously, if an attack gives +16 frames of advantage this means your opponent won't be able to block attacks of speed i15 etc.
Advantage given by Guard Break moves is different; if a GB move gives +20 frames of advantage, it will prevent your opponent from blocking attacks of speed i20 or faster and all of their attacks add +20 to their base speed.
There are exceptions, where a character will be able to attack earlier than being able to block and vice versa. This will be specified as a sidenote next to the relative attack.
If you ever have trouble in reproducing a particular maximum disadvantage, try using advance guard (g6). This will alter the moment of impact and tends to lead to an early hit more often.
I also decided to list which moves force your opponent into crouch. This can be important since many characters don't have access to their fastest moves, making it harder to interrupt your mix-up or more importantly, impossible to punish certain moves on block.
This is mainly indicated by the abbrevation OC, which stands for opponent crouched. This can be extended to further describe under which conditions crouch results. OCB = opponent crouched on block. OCD = opponent remains crouched when hit already ducking. In the case of low hitting moves, this mainly happens when counterhitting a TC / WS move.
Moves ending in SS, ST, SE and WP refer to a different attack chart which is found at the end of this document in the section called stance transition.
Regular Moves
A
H +5~6
B -5~-4
A,A
H +2~3
B -8~-7
A,[A]
~WP
OBT
H -1~+4
C x
B -15~-10
A,[A]6
~SS
OBT
H +3~7
C x
B -11~-7
6A
H +5~6
C x
B -7~-6
3A
H +3~4
B -9~-8
2A
~FC
OCD
H +7~8
B -4~-3
1A
~WP
OC
H +0~2
B -17~-15
1A,A
~FC
OC
H +2~0
B -12
Slightly shorter hit stun at far / max range.
4A
H +7~8
C x
B -1~0
214A
H x
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B
OCD
H +5~6
B -5~-4
B,B
OCD
H +0
B -10
B,
~WP
OCD
H -3~-1
B -14~-12
B,6
~SS
OCD
H -2~0
B -13~-11
6B
OCD
H +4~5
B -6~-5
6
OCD
H1 +7~9
H2 +7~8
B1 -10~-8
B2 -10~-9
Slightly shorter hit and block stun at far / max. range.
6~2
OBT
OCD
H -3~+1
D -6~-2
B -28~-24
Crouched hit prevents opponent from buffering. Must know exact recovery for earliest retaliation. Untimely input or mashing completely prevents attacking for a number of frames = disadv. up to -3~+1
6~8
OBT
H1 -3~+1
H2 +3
B1 -28~-24
B2 -22
Special late hit occurs close to RO / wall or when using AG.
6b9
~WP
H -10
B -25
6b9,K
~WP
OC
H +4
B -6
3B
H x
C x
B -12~-11
2B
~FC
OCD
H +3~4
B -7~-6
1B
OCD
H +6
B -4
1{1}
H x
B -15
SC1
B +19
1{2}
H +4~6
B -7~-5
SC1
B +30~32
4B
H +3~4
B -5~-4
236B
OCB
H x
B1 -4~-1
B2 +3~4
Special late impact occurs at max. range only.
214B
OCD
H -7~-5
B -13~-10
214
~SE
OCD
H -14~-12
B -20~-18
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K
H +4
B -6
k2
OCD
H +2
C x
B -8
6K
H +5
B -5
3K
H +1
C x
B -14
2K
~FC
OCD
H -1
B -11
23K
~FC
OCD
H +7
B -6
Crouched hit prevents opponent from buffering. Must know exact recovery for earliest retaliation. Untimely input or mashing completely prevents attacking for a number of frames = adv. up to +10
1K
OCD
H +5
B -6
1[K]
H x
B +2
4K
H x
B -3
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6A+B
H +5~6
B -11~-10
3A+B
~WP
H x
B -15
3[A+B]{1}
~WP
H x
B -15
SC2
B +17
3[A+B]{2}
~WP
H x
2A+B
OCB
H x
C x
B -7~-5
1A+B
H x
C x
B -9~-8
4A+B~G
~WP
OCD
H +0~1
B -10~-9
4A+B
OCD
H +0~1
B -12~-11
4A+B,B
H x
B +23~24
4A+B,
H x
8A+B
~FC
OCD
H +0~2
B -13~-11
8A+B,A{1}
H x
8A+B,A{2}
H +9~10
B -2~-1
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2A+K
~FC
H x
B -25~-24
Exceptional recovery: non-high hitting attacks of speed i25 or faster cannot be blocked. Attacks of speed i26 cannot be blocked but GId.
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6B+K
H x
B -6
6[B+K]{1}
OBT
H +8
B -17
AT prevents opponent from buffering. Must know exact recovery for earliest retaliation. Untimely input or mashing completely prevents attacking for a number of frames = adv. up to +11.
6[B+K]{2}
H +10
B -14~-11
AT prevents opponent from buffering. Must know exact recovery for earliest retaliation. Untimely input or mashing completely prevents attacking for a number of frames = adv. up to +13.
1_2_3B+K
H x
B -10
SC1
B +15
4B+K
H x
8B+K
~WP
H -10
B -25
8B+K,K
~WP
OC
H +4
B -6
8WR Moves
66A
H x
B -11
33_99A
H x
B +1~3
22_88A
OBT
H1 +10
H2 +5
B -19~-16
AT prevents opponent from buffering. Must know exact recovery for earliest retaliation. Untimely input or mashing completely prevents attacking for a number of frames = adv. up to +13.
11_77A
~WP
OC
H +0~2
B -17~-15
11_77A,A
~FC
OC
H +2~0
B -12
Slightly shorter hit stun at far / max range.
44A
OBT
H +14~17
B -8~-5
44A~B
~SS
OBT
H +6~9
B -16~-13
44[A]
~WP
OBT
H +8~11
B -14~-11
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66B
H +0
C x
B -9
66
~ST
H +2
C x
B -7
33_99B
44B
~WP
OCB
H x
B +3~5
SC2
B +37~39
44
~SS
OCB
H x
B +2~4
SC2
B +36~38
22_88B
H x
B -4~+2
22_88
~ST
H x
B +1~7
11_77B
H +6
B -4
11_77{1}
H x
B -15
SC1
B +19
11_77{2}
H +4~6
B -7~-5
SC1
B +30~32
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66K
H x
B -1~0
Allows for BT attacks at same (dis-)advantage.
66[K]
H x
B +8~9
Allows for lBT attacks at same advantage.
33_99K
H +1
C x
B -14
22_88K
~FC
H x
B -25~-24
Exceptional recovery: non-high hitting attacks of speed i25 or faster cannot be blocked. Attacks of speed i26 cannot be blocked but GId.
11_77K
H x
B -4
44K
~FC
H x
B -31~-26
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66A+B
OBT
H1 +10
H2 +5
B -19~-16
AT prevents opponent from buffering. Must know exact recovery for earliest retaliation. Untimely input or mashing completely prevents attacking for a number of frames = adv. up to +13
44A+B
H x
B -14~-13
44[A+B]
H x
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44B+K
~WP
H x
B -14
44[B+K]{1}
~WP
H x
B -15
SC2
B +17
44[B+K]{1}~6
~SS
OCD
H -10~-6
B -19~-15
44[B+K]{2}
~WP
H x
FC & WS Moves
WS A
OCD
H +3
B -5
FC A
~FC
OCD
H +7~8
B -4~-3
WS B
OCH
H +9~11
B -4~-2
FC 3B
~FC
OCD
H +3
B -10
FC 3
~FC
OCD
H +0~1
B -16~-15
FC 2B
~FC
OCD
H +0~1
B -10~-9
FC 1B
H1 x
H2 -4
B1 -14
B2 -8
WS K
H +8
B -2
FC 3K
~FC
H +2
B -8
FC K
~FC
OCD
H -1
B -11
WS A+B
H +2~4
B1 -8~-6
B2 -3
Special late impact occurs on block only.
WS A+B,A
H x
B1 -16
B2 -7~-5
Earliest impact occurs mainly close to RO / wall or when using AG.
FC 3A+B
H x
B -15
FC 3[A+B]{1}
~WP
H x
B -15
SC2
B +17
FC 3[A+B]{1}~6
~SS
OCD
H -36~-33
B -45~-42
FC 3[A+B]{2}
~WP
H x
WS B+K
OCD
H -25~-22
B -34~-31
Ivy must know exact recovery for earliest retaliation. Untimely input or mashing completely prevents attacking for a number of frames = disadv. on hit up to a -28~-26. I have also identifed a special late impact at maximum range. Which is unfortunately quite hard to test because of the buffer lock. Here's an estimate:
H -19
B -28
Jumping & WL Moves
8A
H +4~6
B -17~-15
WL A
~FC
H1 +3
H2 +5~6
B1 -17
B2 -15~-14
Late impact occurs at far/max range.
8B
OCD
H -1~0
C x
B -17~-16
7B
OCD
H -5~-4
B -18~-17
WL B
OCB
H x
C x
B -5~-3
8K
H x
B -4
WL K
H x
B -5
Back Turned Moves
lBT = left rear side, opp. step to the right
rBT = right rear side, opp. step to the left
lBT A
H +5~6
B -5~-4
rBT A
H +6~7
B -4~-3
BT 2A
~FC
OCD
H +5~6
B -5~-4
BT B
OCD
H +6~7
B -2~-1
BT 2B
~FC
OCD
H +3~4
B -7~-6
BT K
H +3
B -10
Allows for same side BT attacks at same advantage. Only works on hit and at close range.
BT 2K
~FC
OCD
H +4
B -6
On hit, Ivy must know exact recovery for earliest retaliation. Untimely input or mashing completely prevents attacking for a number of frames.
Strangely enough, the buffer lock does not apply after the kick has been blocked or whiffed.
Stance Moves
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Whip Stance
WP A+B
~SE
H -3~+1
C x
B -16~-11
WP A+K
H x
B -24~-21
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Spiral Serenade
SS A
~ST
OBT
H +1~4
B +1~4
SS B
~WP
OCD
H -12~-11
B -24~-23
SS B,B
~WP
H -7~-5
B -13~-11
SS K
~SS
H +4
C x
B +4
SS (A_K)+B
~SS
H +7
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Spiral Tribute
ST A
~SE
H +2~6
C x
B -2~+2
ST 2A
~WP
H -1~+1
B -23~-21
ST B
OCD
H -3~0
B -8~-5
ST B:B
ST B:6B
ST B:6B~B
OCD
H -5~-2
B -10~-7
ST BB
H x
D x
B -6~-3
ST B:6B:4B
OCD
H -6~-3
B -11~-8
ST B:6B:4B~B
OCD
H -6~-3
B -6~-3
ST B:6B:4B:6B
OCD
H -5~-2
B -20~-17
ST B:6B:4B:6B~B
OCD
H -4~-1
B -8~-5
ST B:6B:4B:6B:4B
H x
D x
B +24~27
ST K
~ST
H +1
C x
B -3
ST A+B
~WP
OCH
H +1~3
B +22~24
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Serpent's Embrace
SE A
H -4~-2
B -16~-14
SE A,A
H x
B1 -12
B2 -6~-4
Earliest impact occurs mainly close to RO / wall or when using AG.
SE 2A
H x
B -24~-22
SE B
H x
B1 +29
B2 +33
B3 +36
Special late impact occurs at max. range only.
SE
H x
SE K
~SE
H x
B -4~-2
SE 66K
~SE
H x
B -9~-7
SE A+B
H x
SE 6B+K{1}
H x
B1 -8
B2 -1
SE 6B+K{2}
H x
B +37~39
SE B+K
OCB
H x
B -24~-22
SE 4B+K
OCB
H x
B -24~-22
Ring said: