Raph confirmed as SCV Nightmare :D

Just go to CaS mode, official characters section
Try to create a 3p for Nightmare (customization, NO color edit)

Watch his face :D

He got that lil mask, but you can clearly see that's Raph: same haircut,same face, even same azurish-omg-i'm-so-dead lips

I told you months ago, HA! :D



edit: wrong forum sorry, mods move it to the casual section please :D

And this wasn't mentioned in story mode, apparently. For some reason, one of the main characters is under Nightmare's mask and we have no explanation for you. - Project Soul, 02-01-12

I noticed this too but I kind of doubt it because Raph is looking for Amy atm and he seemed to want Soul Calibur more than Soul Edge in SCIV. Besides I'm not really sure if he has the same voice, but this is certainly something to look into.

according to the facebook page, NM is some roman emperor dude

http://apps.facebook.com/soulcaliburchar/nightmare

No shit, they are one and teh same. I guess Raph was killed somehow and those ppl kept his body underneath the castle, lol. His SCV story , I guess, he probably is dreaming, but in reality his body (and will) is controlled by SE

This isn't confirmed yet tell the official say it no matter how many "coincidences" you find.

At least try to read teh shit you post :D

"Ingratiated himself to Rudolf II, the Holy Roman Emperor, as Graf Dumas."

Rudolf is not Graf Dumas, Dumas(Nightmare/Raphael) work for the emperor

The fact that is clearly Raphael 3d model (just watch Luneth's pic) is a "coincidence"?
Lol

Zach looks like Cody does that make them the same person? No!

"Suite Life of Zach & Cody"

Those aren't just coincidences. That's a pattern.
They have the same voice the same height and the same face. They're clearly the same person. Come on.

They may have wanted to use that idea and then scrapped it...?

BTW, can someone post the actual NM "3P" costume? I'd like to see it without Raph all over it :P

So you're trying to say that Nightmare and Raphael, the ex-german, now roman malfestation of Soul Edge and the French, vampiric aristocrat runaway are identical twins? Hence not the same person?

I knew it! XD

@ Nightmare966, This here, you mean?

I'm still not convinced that Raph is this Graf Dumas. Anyone got links for voice actors? Do they even have the same voice? Raph has a silly accent in English remember but Dumas has a different silly accent (or at least it sounded like it). Dumas' Customize model seems like it was rushed just a bit as you cannot change his chest armor, give him a helmet, change his shoulder armor, or even change his arm, but I could be wrong about those as I have not experimented a whole lot with Dumas yet. Also Raph still seems more tempted to getting Soul Calibur as he wants a Utopia for he and Amy to live in according to SCIV, not a soul hungry sword that would probably tell him to eat his poor foster daughter whom he is currently searching for. Plus I just don't want him to be Nightmare ^ ^; we don't need lose our last fencer to another giant sword wielding Nightmare.

The only thing in all this I wonder - Why Nightmare chose Raphael for his "Host" ?

English not, Japanese sure. Check it on Wiki.
What interests me, why Nightmare and Raphael are 2 diffirent chars in SCV, any ideas?

You won't have to worry about losing SC's fencer. From what I can guess, Raph's body is being used by Nightmare while his soul wanders, lost, searching for Amy. So now we have two different entities and no threat of replacement of either :D

I think it was obvious from the start when a guy pops up in Story with Raphael's hair and one of his masks on.