iKotomi
[10] Knight
Right, and people believed that the earth was flat well over a millennium after it was proven that the earth was round. That was their choice too.
Pepsi vs. Coke 5
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Right, and people believed that the earth was flat well over a millennium after it was proven that the earth was round. That was their choice too.
Rekano
:O
I am an avid soda pop drinker. I am a Pepsi man, but goddamn. I do enjoy coke, Dr.Pepper, off brand, mellow yellow, Vault(ask peeps who know me), Mt.Dew(ALL FLAVORS), Sierria Mist, citra, sprite, 7up, many different root beers and red cream sodas...Caffeine...RUNS THROUGH MY VEINS! my blood alone could keep all of New York awake for 24hrs.
Jesus
[08] Mercenary
GODDAMN PEOPLE! Why is it that every fucking thread that gets started turns into a damn penis competition. Coke or Pepsi? WOW amazing.....=/
As for for coke or pepsi, I prefer the red, white and blue. Coke's alright, but there's nothing like the taste of a cold pepsi. Although truth be told, I wish RC was more available here. I luvs some Royal Crown.
As for for coke or pepsi, I prefer the red, white and blue. Coke's alright, but there's nothing like the taste of a cold pepsi. Although truth be told, I wish RC was more available here. I luvs some Royal Crown.
Rekano
:O
People get touchy about stuff, none more important than their soda pops. One thing I do enjoy...Guzzling down a combo of multiple sodas in one glass!(PEPSI AND COKE MIXED WITH VAULT AND ORANGE SODA)
ZDamned
The cake is a Lie!!!
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief
Preference (also called "taste" or "penchant") is a concept, used in the social sciences, particularly economics. It assumes a real or imagined "choice" between alternatives and the possibility of rank ordering of these alternatives, based on happiness, satisfaction, gratification, enjoyment, utility they provide. More generally, it can be seen as a source of motivation. In cognitive sciences, individual preferences enable choice of objectives/goals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preference
There is a huge difference, between those, and please re read my post. I never said Belief.
Alex.J
[14] Master
Don't worry Zdamned, we are drinking a tasty illusion. From where I am standing though, that Ghengis John guy is REALLY sipping the Pepsi Kool Aid. Pepsi has their hand so far up his ass he might as well be the spokes person for Pepsi.
ZEDONIUS
[09] Warrior
Lets compare Sprite to Sierra Mist. Which one is better.
iKotomi
[10] Knight
What you have shown is that you know how to plug in words into wikipedia. What you haven't show is that you know what you are talking about. As an economics major at the University of Chicago (I'm sure you can wikipedia that) with a pretty deep background in philosophy, I know quite well the difference between preference and belief.
However, since you clearly don't understand how to interpret an analogy, or why I made my statement in the first place, there's no real point in explaining this to you. I'll just say that preferences are beliefs, and leave that to you to figure out what that means (or not, since you clearly seem like that kind of person).
tiggerkiddo
[09] Warrior
I used to like Pepsi when I was younger, capable of drinking an entire liter in one day or so (Not everyday mind you) but I find it's now too sweet for me and I prefer fountain Coca-Cola. Yumm
Twelve
[09] Warrior
There's a difference between saying "Coca-Cola is better," and saying "I like Coca-Cola better."
You can prove that such a preference is based on something other than the actual flavor, but that doesn't make such a preference wrong. I think Coke and Pepsi taste different. If the difference is based on a psychological trick, that doesn't really change the fact that in the presence of the trick they taste different (to me).
You can prove that such a preference is based on something other than the actual flavor, but that doesn't make such a preference wrong. I think Coke and Pepsi taste different. If the difference is based on a psychological trick, that doesn't really change the fact that in the presence of the trick they taste different (to me).
TsunamiBye
[14] Master
I like Dr. Pepper and its other flavors. However, I prefer sprite over it. Because sprite just suits me fine. Obey your thirst!!!
*goes to Ruby Tuesdays*
I want a large cup of Vanilla Coke Now!!!!!
Next soda to drink: WANTA FANTA!!! Don't you wanna?
Alex.J
[14] Master
Your analogy blew, make a better one.
newdarkcloud
[08] Mercenary
While I chose Pepsi, I'll happily drink any soda. My absolute favorite, however, has to be Sierra Mist, followed by Dr. Pepper.
On another note, are you actually arguing over soda. Just pop open your favorite soft drink and enjoy life.
On another note, are you actually arguing over soda. Just pop open your favorite soft drink and enjoy life.
ZDamned
The cake is a Lie!!!
Actually, in your original Quote of my first post, and analogy usage, you proved to the whole thread that YOU in fact do NOT have any idea what the difference is between the words, which is why I felt it necessary to define them with a dictionary definition.
What you are describing is simply illogical. You are making a comparison between 2 different people (Apples and Oranges if we may):
A person who believes that a Circle is a Square.
A person who feels that the flavor Vanilla tastes better than the flavor Chocolate.
This is a logical fallacy. It's like saying that the number of murders happening in the year 2008 is linked directly to how many Playstation 3 units were sold. The 2 have no relation what so ever, yet you feel that they are common.
BTW: I couldn't care any less if you were a Harvard graduate. Your statement just shows your own insecurity. This is the internet. I could be Janitor or a Law Major for all you know. What is the difference?
Alex.J
[14] Master
One cleans puke for a living?
ZDamned
The cake is a Lie!!!
Yup, that is a difference between what they do, but does it make a difference in the person arguing the point of what we are talking about? A person is a person, and a title is a title. Background or not, I have spoken with many IT professionals who flat out have no idea what they are talking about in their own field of profession.
InfestedLoli
[09] Warrior
Alex, coke does not taste good. It is the programming of the matrix that is telling your body that coke tastes good. You aren't really drinking coke at all, but instead a sophisticated computer program.
iKotomi
[10] Knight
People who are convinced that coke is better and pepsi makes them puke are tools. Rather than thinking about it rationally, they take popular opinion and personal dogma and trick themselves into thinking that two things that are pretty much exactly the same (at least not different enough that one causes gastric upheaval) are significantly different (good for coca-cola by the way, economically speaking, its absolutely brilliant).
People who believe that the earth is flat are tools. Rather than thinking about it rationally, they take popular opinion and personal dogma and trick themselves into thinking that if you try to swim from New York to Paris, you'll fall off the face of the planet. I'm not going to bother holding your hand through the argument that preferences are opinions. Any graduate from Harvard law should know that everything is an opinion.
What links both of them is that they both have an opinion that is defended only by the fact that they are free to have an opinion. There's nothing wrong with groundless opinions, but in general, its unscientific to have them, which was why I was pointing out a very obvious example of stupid groundless opinions.
Btw, analogies usually compare two different things...the point of them is to illustrate specific relationships or similarities that is more easily understood in one than the other.
People who believe that the earth is flat are tools. Rather than thinking about it rationally, they take popular opinion and personal dogma and trick themselves into thinking that if you try to swim from New York to Paris, you'll fall off the face of the planet. I'm not going to bother holding your hand through the argument that preferences are opinions. Any graduate from Harvard law should know that everything is an opinion.
What links both of them is that they both have an opinion that is defended only by the fact that they are free to have an opinion. There's nothing wrong with groundless opinions, but in general, its unscientific to have them, which was why I was pointing out a very obvious example of stupid groundless opinions.
Btw, analogies usually compare two different things...the point of them is to illustrate specific relationships or similarities that is more easily understood in one than the other.
ZDamned
The cake is a Lie!!!
So, by your whole point, an agnostic person enjoys all food equally. Be it watermelon, monkey brains, sugar, or feces. He has NO beliefs, and thus no opinions holding him to said personal dogma that leads him to believe that an apple tastes better than a dead raw tuna that had been molding for 2 weeks.
Like Alex.J said, your analogy sucks, get a new one. You are trying to link a subjective opinion with an objective "fact".
The taste of Coke versus the taste of Pepsi is NOT in any way measurable like the Clock Speed of a 3.2 GHz CPU versus a 533 MHz CPU.
Analogies compare different things with a like scenario, the scenario is what is WRONG with your analogy.
I like how you also say groundless opinion, as if having tasted both drinks, and coming to a conclusion no longer constitutes a grounds for making a choice. You are stating that Pepsi is just better with some magical measurement. If you can prove to me scientifically, without statistics that Pepsi is better, please present your evidence. ALL statistical taste tests don't count, because they are groundless opinions by your definition.
iKotomi
[10] Knight
Belief that the earth is round is a subjective opinion. Belief that coke tastes better is a subjective opinion. The analogy was meant to illustrate how you shouldn't assume that your opinion is right just because you are allowed to have an opinion, whatever right means.
Note how I never said anything about how pepsi is better than coke (imo, they are both awful drinks and it is not interesting at all to determine which one tastes less bad). What I was attacking, if you can call it an attack, was your horrible method of argumentation, saying that coke is better because you think that pepsi makes you puke. That just indicates to me that you didn't actually try to objectively determine whether coke tastes better than pepsi (whatever that means) and rather, just fell back on personal dogma and popular opinion to come to your conclusion.
The way you argue is evidence enough for me that you are in fact, incapable of making an objective opinion at all. I would think it would take a much less scientific approach to determine the difference between apple and feces, then coke and pepsi, especially since you are entering the test with a bias.
Note how I never said anything about how pepsi is better than coke (imo, they are both awful drinks and it is not interesting at all to determine which one tastes less bad). What I was attacking, if you can call it an attack, was your horrible method of argumentation, saying that coke is better because you think that pepsi makes you puke. That just indicates to me that you didn't actually try to objectively determine whether coke tastes better than pepsi (whatever that means) and rather, just fell back on personal dogma and popular opinion to come to your conclusion.
The way you argue is evidence enough for me that you are in fact, incapable of making an objective opinion at all. I would think it would take a much less scientific approach to determine the difference between apple and feces, then coke and pepsi, especially since you are entering the test with a bias.