I'm Sorry! pyrrha frame data

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PartyEagle

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yea! every bodies favorite apologetic serial killer not has that frame data you have been wanting!

as always , support the guide, they worked hard to make it as best as they can. you can get your copy here

if your unfamiliar with how i write it since im too lazy to write it sc2 style, it will look like this :
bb 14f -2,4 -8,-6 (the input, impact, hit advantage(-2 for first b, +4 for second b), then block adv)

A MOVES:

aa 11f 2,6 -8,-5

ak 11f 2,-2 -8,-14

6a 21f 6 -8

3a 19f -2 -14

2a 13f 8 -6

1aa 30f knd,knd -22,-22

4aaa 18f 5,knd,knd -8,-22,-22

4ab 18f 5,knd -8,-14

FCa 12f 8 -6

WRa 16f 6 -8

jump a 24 knd -9

66a 18f 6 -10

22a 20f knd -6

11aa 28f 2,knd -12,-14

44a 24f 7 -3

BTa 14f 6 -6

BT2a 15f 8 -6

4aaaBE 18f 5,knd,knd,lnc -8,-22,-22,-14

B MOVES:

bb14f -2,4 -8,-6

bk 14f -2,0 -8,-10

6bk 13f -2,0 -8,-14

3b 17f lnc -16

2bb 16f 0,stn -10,-20

1b 15f 2 -8

4b 26f stn 0

FCb 14f 2 -8

WRb 15f -6 -6

jump b 21f 4 -6

66b 23f lnc -6

33b 27f lnc -14

22bak lnc -18,-,-

44b 22f lnc -14

BTb 16f 4 -6

BT2b 17f 2 -8

66bBE 23f lnc 10

K MOVES:

k 13f 2 -8

6k 16f 6 -6

3kk 16f -2,stn -10,-16

2k 15f -2 -14

1k 16f -1 -15

4k 16f 6 -4

FCk 14f -2 -14

WRk 15f 8 0

jump k 21f 4 -4

66k 15f lnc -15

22k 23f stn -7

22kk 49f stn -3

44kab 30f -4,knd,lnc -12,-16,-16

44kb 30f -4,stn -12,0

sliding k 21f knd -22

BTk 15f 2 -8

BT2k 17f -2 -14

SIMULTANEOUS :

3a+b 18f knd -6

b+kb 26f -2,stn -12,-20

6b+k 17f 6 -12

2b+kbbb 19f -6,-6,-6,-6 -16,-16,-16,-16

8b+k stn,16 -12,-12

8[b+k] 69f stn,-12 UB,16

4b+k 65f lnc UB

WRa+b 18f 0 -12

WRa+b 68f stn 14

WRb+k 22f lnc -12

66a+b 18f knd -6

66b+kab 24f 0,-3,lnc -8,-18,-16

44b+k 26f knd -10

BTb+k knd -10

ANGEL STEP:

236aa 18f knd,knd -18,-16

236b 14f stn -16

236k 27f knd -26

23658_2 k 22f stn -4

236aa BE 18f knd,knd,lnc -18,-16,8

CE 13f knd -17
 
When I get some time I'll verify this and post it in the wiki. From the parts I previously tested it looks to be largely right though. Don't expect that for at least a week or two though.
 
some stuff will need to be tested ...

66a is -11 for example ... as I believe it is punishable by pyrrha's aa
 
hmm, you're right. I saw ramon "punishing" it with aa in a vid, more than once ... I suppose the other guy just wasn't blocking.
 
Discrepancies so far (These come from the FD I posted on release and rechecked or have tested before putting in the wiki)
AA -6 +7
4A +4 on hit, it does cause some funny trades up close, but is fairly consistently +4 with moves you'd expect to not cause hitbox issues.
WR A i17
6B is +2 on hit
4B is i32(at least)
WR B is +4 on hit
JMP B is i23
3K is 0 on CH
1K is KND on CH
JMP K is i22
2B+K is i20
BT B+K is -5 on guard
11A is -2 on NH, only +2 on CH
44A is i25 and LNC on CH
Some stuff around the 44K string. Part of it might just be me misunderstanding notation, but I got it in order in the wiki.
66B+KA is -2 on NH and stuns if it counter hits seperately.
AS K is at least -27 on block, it punishes itself.

Also moves other than AS~S have been transposed to the wiki.

/edit/ lemme know if you spot any typos or think anything in the wiki is incorrect
 
33B is incorrect in the wiki, its listed as only -10 on block, but, you can 236B punish it, so its -14. I couldn't get an i15 move to punish it. Sadly, no safe massive ring out launcher for us :(
 
On just guard, 66B BE is -17, Pyrrha's i17 3B can punish it, but I can't get i18 4A to punish it.
wow, so a move that should be launch punishable if JG properly is only launch punishable to like 5 characters haha. GS with the knowledge though.
 
You guys do know you can do this right?

Character Notations​

  • AS = Angel Step
  • ASS = Angel Side Step

Horizontal Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Slide Flow 11 10 -13 -8 2 2 (31)
:A: :H: :G: cancel
Slide Flow 11 22 -13 -6 7 7 (22)
:A::A: :H::H: NC
Slide Knee 11 24 -21 -14 -2 -2
:A::K: :H::M: NC
Timid Hilt 21 18 -15 -8 6 6
:6::A: :M:
Angel Punisher 19 24 -21 -14 -2 -2
:3::A: :M: TC[8~]
Under Slide Blade 13 10 -11 -6 8 8
:2::A: :SL: TC[9~]
Gleaming Satellite 30 22 -22 KND KND
:1::A: :L: ~FC
Gleaming Satellite 30 46 -34 -22 KND KND
:1::A::A: :L::M: NC
Cutlass Europa 18 20 -14 -8 4 4
:4::A: :H: TC[6-10]
Cutlass Europa 38 20 -15 -1 STN STN 10
:4::(A): :H: TC[6~10+] / STN[16]
Cutlass Europa 18 42 -22 KND KND
:4::A::A: :H::L: TC[6-10] / NCC / ~FC
Cutlass Europa 18 66 -34 -22 KND KND
:4::A::A::A: :H::L::M: TC[6-10] / NCC / 2nd and 3rd hits NC
Cutlass Titan 18 40 -21 -14 KND KND 8
:4::A::B: :H::M: TC[6-10] / NCC / Opp. FrC (block)
Under Slide Blade 12 10 -11 -6 8 8
FC :A: :SL:
Full Turn Blade 17 18 -15 -8 6 6
WR :A: :M:
Jumping Mirage Satellite 24 22 -14 -9 KND KND
:7::A: :H: TJ[7~]
Jumping Mirage Satellite 24 25 -14 -9 KND KND
:8::A: :H: TJ[7~]
Jumping Mirage Satellite 24 28 -14 -9 KND KND
:9::A: :H: TJ[7~]
Flipside Slide Blade
BT :A: :H:
Flipside Under Slide Blade
BT :2::A: :SL:

Vertical Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Ascend Splash 14 14 -15 -8 -2 -2
:B: :M: :G:cancel
Ascend Splash 14 30 -13 -6 4 4
:B::B: :M::M: NC
Angel's Flow 14 34 -16 -10 0 0
:B::K: :M::H: NC
Tap and Tornado 13 12 -13 -8 2 2
:6::B: :H:
Tap and Tornado 13 30 -17 -14 0 0
:6::B::K: :H::L: NCC
Heaven's Misery 17 26 -23 -16 LNC LNC 11
:3::B: :M:
Guardian Strike 16 12 -16 -10 0 0
:2::B: :M: TC[16], ~FC
Guardian Strike 16 40 -27 -20 KND KND 9
:2::B::B: :M::M: NCC / TC[16] / Clean Hit C
Guardian Strike ~ Miserable Fate 16 60 -27 -20 KND KND
:2::B::B::4: :M::M: NCC / TC[16] / :AT:
Guardian Strike ~ Evangelic Fate 16 70 -27 -20 KND KND
:2::B::B:::4: :M::M: NCC / TC[16] / :AT:
Under Splash 15 16 -8 2 2
:1::B: :M: TC[11~] / ~FC
Elk Strike 32 26 -15 0 STN STN 8
:4::B: :H: STN[30+] / TC[4-18]
Under Splash 14 16 -15 -8 2 2
FC :B: :M: TC
Full Turn Blade 15 16 -13 -6 4 4
WR :B: :M: TC
Jumping Under Splash 23 22 -13 -6 4 4
:7::B: :M: TJ[7~]
Jumping Under Splash 23 25 -13 -6 4 4
:8::B: :M: TJ[7~]
Jumping Under Splash 23 28 -13 -6 4 4
:9::B: :M: TJ[7~]

Kick Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Holy High Kick 13 14 -15 -8 +2 +2
:K: :H: :G: cancel
Trepid Punish Kick 16 20 -17 -6 +6 STN 15
:6::K: :M:
Fragile Crusher 16 14 -21 -10 -2 0
:3::K: :M:
Fragile Crusher 16 32 -26 -16 STN STN 18
:3::K::K: :M::M: NCC / Clean Hit C
Spring Under Kick 15 14 -15 -14 -2 -2
:2::K: :L: TC[11~] / ~FC
Tornado Low Heel 17 20 -18 -15 -1 KND
:1::K: :L:
Moderate Low Heel 16 18 -11 -4 6 6
:4::K: :M:
Spring Under Kick 14 14 -15 -14 -2 -2
FC :K: :L: TC
Rising Temple 15 18 -15 0 8 8
WR :K: :H:
Holy Crest Kick 22 22 -11 -4 4 4
:7::K: :M: TJ[7~]
Holy Crest Kick 22 24 -11 -4 4 4
:8::K: :M: TJ[7~]
Holy Crest Kick 22 26 -11 -4 4 4
:9::K: :M: TJ[7~]

Simultaneous Press​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
El Fortune - - - - - - -
:A+B: - :GI::M:[4-13] / doesn't GI thrusts
Twin Step Grace 18 30 -19 -6 KND KND 13
:3::A+B: :M::M: NC / TC[9~]
Mirage Satellite 18 20 -21 -12 0 0
WR :A+B: :M: TC[1~]
Mirage Satellite 67 30 -21 14 STN STN 7
WR :(A+B): :M: TC[1~] / :GC:
Guardian Upper 22 26 -21 -12 LNC LNC
WR :B+K: :M: TC
Temperance Strike 26 16 -17 -12 -2 -2 12
:B+K: :M: TJ / TS
Temperance Strike 26 45 -27 -20 KND KND 7
:B+K::B: :M::M: NCC / TJ / TS
Temperance Strike ~ Miserable Fate 26 64 -27 -20 KND KND
:B+K::B::4: :M::M: NCC / TJ / TS / :AT:
Temperance Strike ~ Evangelic Fate 26 74 -27 -20 KND KND
:B+K::B:::4: :M::M: NCC / TJ / TS / :AT:
Quick Strike 17 28 -17 -12 +6 KND 12
:6::B+K: :M: TC[8~]
Desperate Impale 20 34 -19 -16 -6 KND
:2::B+K::B::B::B: :L::L::L::L: NCC
Heaven's Gate 62 55 -31 - LNC LNC :UA:
:4::B+K: :M: :UA: :G: cancel
Ultimate Ultimate Gaia Tremor 39 25 -23 -12 KND KND 8
:8::B+K: :SM::L: TC / TJ / Quake STN[16]
Ultimate Gaia Tremor 68 45 -23 - KND KND
:8::(B+K): :SM::L: TC / TJ / Quake STN[16]
Hip Charge 16 30 -16 -5 SHK SHK
BT :B+K: :M:

8-Way Run Moves​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Angel Crucify 18 28 -20 -10 +6 +6
:6::(6):*:3::(3):*:9::(9)::A: :M: TC[7-14] / Opp. side turned (hit)
Shield Rush 18 26 -13 -6 KND KND
:2::(2)::A: :H: TS
Inverse Shield Rush 18 26 -13 -6 KND KND
:8::(8)::A: :H: TS
Star Crossed Satellite 28 18 -16 -12 -2 +2
:1::(1):*:7::(7)::A: :L:
Star Crossed Satellite 28 38 -20 -14 KND KND
:1::(1):*:7::(7)::A::A: :L::M: NCC
Star Crossed Satellite 28 43 -20 14 KND KND 12
:1::(1):*:7::(7)::A::(A): :L::M: :GC:
Reverse Mirage 25 22 -16 -3 +7 :AT:
:4::(4)::A: :M: TC[14-17]
Reverse Mirage (Counter Hit) 25 22, 18 - - - LNC
:4::(4)::A: :M::M: :AT: Automatic on CH
Angelic Meteor 23 28 -17 -6 LNC LNC 10
:6::(6)::B: :M: Opp. FrC on block / Clean Hit C
Ascension 27 28 -21 -14 LNC LNC
:3::(3):*:9::(9)::B: :M: TC
Guardian's Judgment 16 22 -34+ -18 KND KND
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::B: :M: TC / late TJ
Guardian's Judgment 16 31 -40~ KND KND
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::B::A: :M::M: NC / TC / Late TJ
Guardian's Judgment 16 59 -60~ KND KND
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::B::A::K: :M::M::M: NC / TC / Late TJ / Clean Hit C
Guardian Upper 22 22 -21 -14 LNC LNC 10
:1::(1):*:7::(7)::B: :M: TC
Guardian Upper 22 22 -21 -14 LNC LNC 10
:4::(4)::B: :M: TC
Plasma Blade 15 18 -18 -15 LNC LNC
:6::(6)::K: :M:
Plasma Blade 15 20 -16 -13 LNC LNC
:3::(3):*:9::(9)::K: :M:
Gleaming Twister Kick 23 26 -22 -7 STN STN 13
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::K: :H: TC / STN[15]
Gleaming Twister Low Kick 49 26 -18 -3 STN STN
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::kK: :L: TC / STN[13]
Angel Stroke 30 36 -18 -12 -4 KND
:4::(4)::K: :M::M: NC / TJ[16~]
Angel Stroke 30 58 -22 -16 KND KND
:4::(4)::K::A: :M::M::L: TJ[16~]
Angel Stroke 30 87 -26 -16 KND KND
:4::(4)::K::A::B: :M::M::L::M: TJ[16~]
Angel Fall 30 76 -13 0 STN STN
:4::(4)::K::B: :M::M::M: NC / TJ[16~] / STN[18] / Clean Hit C
Twin Step Grace 18 32 -18 -6 KND KND 13
:6::(6)::A+B: :M::M: NC / TC
Twin Step Grace 18 34 -18 -6 KND KND 13
:3::(3):*:9::(9)::A+B: :M::M: NC / TC
Jet Stream Rush 24 20 -17 -8 0 0 12
:6::(6)::B+K: :M: TC
Jet Stream Rush 24 30 -19 -18 -2 -2
:6::(6)::B+K::A: :M::H: NC / TC / STN on CH of 2nd hit
Jet Stream Rush 24 58 -21 -16 LNC LNC
:6::(6)::B+K::A::B: :M::H::M: NCC / TC
Jet Stream Rush 24 22 -17 -8 0 0
:3::(3):*:9::(9)::B+K: :M: TC
Olympus Shower 26 36 -23 -10 KND KND 9
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::B+K: :M: FrC on guard
Styx Shower 26 34 -23 -10 KND KND 9
:1::(1):*:7::(7)::B+K: :M: FrC on guard
Styx Shower 26 32 -10 KND KND 9
:4::(4)::B+K: :M: FrC on guard
Sliding 21 26 -25 -22 KND KND -
Run :K: :L:

Throw Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Widow Maker 17 25 :TH: :TH: KND KND :TH:
:A+G: :H: :A: break
Holy Carnivore 17 50 :TH: :TH: KND KND -
:B+G: :H: :B: break / Clean Hit C
Round Knocker 17 40 :TH: :TH: KND KND -
Left :A+G:*:B+G: :H: :TH: :A: or :B: break
Broken Promise 17 70 :TH: :TH: KND KND -
Right :A+G:*:B+G: :H: :A: or :B: break
Bottoms Up 17 35 :TH: :TH: KND KND -
Behind :A+G:*:B+G: :H: :A:*:B: break (Astaroth, Voldo, and Z.W.E.I. only)
Heaven's Rider 17 55 :TH: :TH: KND KND :TH:
:6::6::A+G: :H: :A: break

Edge Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Cutlass Seraphim 18 -21 14 KND KND 5
:4::A::A::aA+B+K: :H::L::M::L: :BE: NCC
Cutlass Seraphim 38 91 -21 14 KND KND 5
:4::(A)::A::aA+B+K: :H::L::M::L: :BE: NC
Seraphim Meteor 23 51 -17 10 SLNC SLNC 5
:6::(6)::bA+B+K: :M::M: :BE: NC / Clean Hit C / :GC:
Luminous Seraph 18 54 8 KND KND 7
AS :A::aA+B+K: :M::L::M: :BE: NC / TC / :GC: LNC on hit of 3rd hit
Trinity Strike 13 70 -30 -20 KND KND 6
:2::3::6::2::3::6::A+B+K: :M::M::M: :CE: Invincible [11~] / Clean Hit C / :GI:[:M: All]

Special Stances​

Angel Step​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Angel Step :SS: :SS: :SS: :SS: :SS: :SS: :SS:
:2::3::6: :SS: TC[1-18~]
Luminous Angel 18 25 -26 -18 KND KND
AS :A: :M: TC[3-16]
Luminous Angel 18 48 -24 -16 KND KND
AS :A::A: :M::L: NC / TC
Angel's Strike 14 32 -25 -18 KND KND
AS :B: :M: -4 on NH tip hit
Angel's Strike 14 32 -25 -18 KND KND
AS ::B: :M: Clean Hit A
Miserable Fate 14 52 -25 -18 KND KND
AS :B::4: :M: :AT:
Evangelic Fate 14 62 -25 -18 KND KND
AS :B:::4: :M: :AT:
Twin Step Somersault 27 28 -27 KND KND
AS :K: :M: STC

Angel Side Step​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Angel Side Step :SS: :SS: :SS: :SS: :SS: :SS: :SS:
:2::3::6::8:*:2: :SS: TC / TS
Jet Stream Rush 24 20 -17 -8 0 0 12
ASS :B+K: :M: TC
Jet Stream Rush 24 30 -19 -18 -2 -2
ASS :B+K::A: :M::H: NC / TC / STN on CH of 2nd hit
Jet Stream Rush 24 58 -21 -16 LNC LNC
ASS :B+K::A::B: :M::H::M: NCC / TC
 
You guys do know you can do this right?

Yes, but, I can't exactly edit/update the wiki. Its of course the place the final data should go for easiest reference. There also needs to be some place to discuss the frame data as well.
 
The wiki entry for 6B+K is wrong, its not i26, its i17. After a blocked 4B, 6B+K will beat i18 3A+B and trade with i17 1K. Though i17 3B will beat it. In any event, its far faster than i26.

Did some more frame testing on just guarded moves here:

236AA BE is at least -27 on just guard, as i27 236K can punish it.
4B is -15 on just guard as i15 1B can punish it, but i16 2B cannot.
66B is -17 on just guard, as i17 3B can punish it, but i18 3A+B cannot. This is interesting as 66B BE is also -17 on JG.
B is -15 on just guard as i15 1B can punish it, but i16 2B cannot.
BB is -13 on just guard, i13 2A can punish it, but i14 BB cannot. Note for this, its actually not too bad to just guard it if the 1st hit whiffs.
A is -13 on just guard, i13 2A can punish it, but i14 BB cannot.
AA is -12 on just guard, Pyrrha Omega's i12 AA can punish it, but i13 2A's cannot.
4A is -15 on just guard.
4AB is -21 on just guard, i21 6A punishes it, but i22 8K cannot.

The only move I've found to be safe on just guard so far is 2A (well Pyrrha can't punish it at least, you can't with her 2A and AA whiffs). If I do 2A 2A and just guard the first one, i26B+K loses to it, and i24 8B counter hits it.

In testing 4AB, I found an interesting property of just guard that I wasn't aware of before. On a regular block, 4AB forces crouch, so inputting BB immediately gives you WR B, but, on just guard, it doesn't force crouch anymore, giving you a regular BB.
 
I noticed something interesting today with her CE. If you do her CE from crouching, its one frame faster, just like 236B. You can punish Pyrrha's 8B+K at -12 with it (normally can't even 2A it due to push back). You can also punish 11A with it (also -12).

In testing this, I couldn't punish B+K at -12 with it. Oddly, I could punish WR A+B, WR B+K, and 44K with it (all listed at -12 and neither of which force crouch on block) , but I couldn't punish either with i13 6B.
 
I noticed something interesting today with her CE. If you do her CE from crouching, its one frame faster, just like 236B. You can punish Pyrrha's 8B+K at -12 with it (normally can't even 2A it due to push back). You can also punish 11A with it (also -12).

In testing this, I couldn't punish B+K at -12 with it. Oddly, I could punish WR A+B, WR B+K, and 44K with it (all listed at -12 and neither of which force crouch on block) , but I couldn't punish either with i13 6B.
Very nice find. This finally gives us a reason to punish with CE instead of crouching 236B, for that extra frame of opportunity. I'll try to look for more applications of this, since you said it didn't work on B+K I'm curious as to how this punish will differ between other -12 moves.
 
I did some testing with the frames of 236B when you land it at tip range and don't get a knockdown and miss doing either 236B4 or 236B:4. It appears to be -4 on hit, as 236B BB loses to Pyrrha 3B (i17), trades with 4A (i18) and beats 3A (i19).
 
I did some testing with the frames of 236B when you land it at tip range and don't get a knockdown and miss doing either 236B4 or 236B:4. It appears to be -4 on hit, as 236B BB loses to Pyrrha 3B (i17), trades with 4A (i18) and beats 3A (i19).
Interesting. Pyrrha Omega's 236B is only -2 on NH tip hit according to her wiki. I wonder why they would be different.
 
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