Lay still now! Ivy's Meter Building Information.

[WhYYZ]

This has been something I wanted to do for a while and finally I started working on it and now I'm finished.
Stuff that's made this possible: Whiffing a or move with one direction that hits once almost always gives 1/60 meter. This also happens to be the lowest amount of meter you can gain. So 1 brave edge equals 60 "meter"
After finding that key information I could create a information chart for all moves Ivy has.

-Hitting people against a wall, taunting and using meter doesn't give you meter.
-Clean hits and Counter hits don't alter your meter gain unless the CH adds a extra hit to your attack.

On hit

Moves

Spoiler

2
2
WR 2
WC 2
BT 2
BTWC 2
__ 2
3
3
4
4
(CH) 5
5
5
6
6
6
WR 6
8
8
_ 10
_ _ 11
(Throw)11
(CH) 11
_ 13
13
18

Moves

Spoiler

2
(On grounded opponent) 2
__ 2
3
3
_ 3
4
5
5
5
5
WC 5
BT 6
BTWC 6
8
_ _ 8
8
8
WR 8
WC 8
WC 9
WC 10
10
_ 10
_ 11
15
17
23
_ 24
_ 26
_ 28
32
_ (just) 33

Moves

Spoiler

(Sliding) 2
2
2
2
BTWC 2
__ 2
WC 2
BT 3
3
_ 3
4
4
_ _ 5
WR 5
6
(Not fully charged) 10
(CH) 11
_ _ 11
15

Moves

Spoiler

2
3
WR 3
5
6
7
A+B: 8
9/7 (*)
10
__ 10
WR 10
11
__ 12
__ 14
18
(A+B Whiffs and B hits) 18
(A+B only hits once) 22 (*)
(A+B hits twice) 21 (*)
(A+B hits three times) 25 (*)

Moves

Spoiler

WR 7
__ 11
BTWC 11
BTWR 12
13
__: 13
15
17
17
(Throw) 18
24
32

Moves

Spoiler

11
12
Right Throw 12
Left Throw 14
Back Throw 15
CS 16
iCS 18

(*) The move 4A+B is glitchy. When all three hits hit fast enough the game thinks 1 of the three whiffed and gives you 7 (3+3+1) instead of 9 (3+3+3). This causes every move that starts with 4A+B almost impossible to calculate.


This list misses some moves.
_ (Just)
_ (Just)
_ (Just)
_ (Just)


I can't get these moves. (Not being able to use 22_88_Bh~BBBBB is crippling my game :S) So If someone can do these moves, help out so I can add them to the list. (Tip, use 22_88A to fill the meter as this is 10 and use whiffed 3B to fill it up completly which is 1)

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Whiffing and Meter building.

- All moves that give 1 meter will not be listed, save me a lot of work.
- When a move is blocked you ALWAYS get twice the amount of meter that you would gain if it whiffed. B+K is a exception, more about that later on.
- When your move it Just Guarded you still gain meter equal to a whiff
- Whiffing a throw does not give you meter.

Whiff

Moves

Spoiler

_ _ 2
_ 2
2
2
WR 2
3

Moves

Spoiler

2
2
2
2
2
WC 2
_ 2
_ 2
3
_ 3
WC 3
3
4
_ 4
_ 5
_ 6
6

Moves

Spoiler

_ _ 2
2
(Not fully charged) 2
3

Moves

Spoiler

2
2
2
3
WR 3
3
3
3
5
(After 1 A+B hit) 6
(After 2 A+B hit) 6
8

Moves

Spoiler

2
__ 2
__ 2
BT 2
WCBT 2
2
3
3
4
(3rd hit gets blocked) 5 *
5
6
(2nd and 3rd hit gets blocked) 6*

All moves not listed give 1 on whiff.

(*) B+K is a exception.
(3rd hit gets blocked) 5 and (2nd and 3rd hit gets blocked) 6 will give the same amount of meter on hit.

 

[KineticClash]

So these are all on hit? Does it change the amount you get if they guard? Also, what about on whiff?

 

[WhYYZ]

So these are all on hit? Does it change the amount you get if they guard? Also, what about on whiff?

This is stuff that I still need to test.

Like I said in the OP whiffing a or move with any direction will almost always give 1/60 meter.
I will do more tests soon and this is the start because I'm planning to add whiffs and blocks. (Even though I think you get the same amount of meter of whiff and block.)

 

[malek]

That is very interresting. Thank you to share it.
I'll wait for your next information about whiff/block/hit meter building.

EDIT:
From my test,
---Let's say a move build 1 unit of meter in whiff, then it'll build 2 meter on block and 4 meter on hit.
---3B+K 3B+K build a third of BE on hit.
---5JF build half of BE on hit.
---FC 1B, G, 6B8 build a third of BE on hit.
---A+G and B+G throws build a sixth of a BE.
---Side throws build a fifth of a BE.

 

[WhYYZ]

---Let's say a move build 1 unit of meter in whiff, then it'll build 2 meter on block and 4 meter on hit .
Too bad it's not that easy. 3B gives 8 on hit. but gives 1 on whiff.


---3B+K 3B+K build a third of BE on hit.
3B+K gives 11. So it's close. but 22/60 is a bit more than 20/60.

---5JF build half of BE on hit.
This is something I really want to know. Could you find the EXACT amount of meter gained?

---FC 1B, G, 6B8 build a third of BE on hit.
FC 1B gives 8 and I thought 6B8 gave 10. But it seems that 6B8 is missing and that the list has 2 6B's. :S

I'm going to work on whiff today so it should be updated sometime today.

 

[KineticClash]

From my testing, 88B.B.B.B.B is 33 because I was able to do 27 whiffed 3Bs to finish filling the bar.

 

[WhYYZ]

I was planning on edit this yesterday but around 9 P.M we had a black-out till midnight :S

Stuff: Malek, you were right about the whiff/block radius except for 1 move. (I almost wanted to stop and just call it when I stumbled upon that move.)

Thanks @ KClash for the Just data. I find it weird that it only gives 1 meter more though :S You would think it would give more but ok.

Whiff has been added.

 

[WhYYZ]

Still need a iCS to finish the list.

 

[WhYYZ]

Isn't this something that could be added to the wiki-page?

Still need info on the iCS.

Edit: iCS gives 18 meter.

 

[KineticClash]

This thread is underrated! =]

Every character SA needs one of them

For example, 44[A]6 giving a bit more meter than 44[A] is definitely notable.