Setsuka Tech Traps

Here is what I have. Anything else, let me know.

agB-Catches forward tech. Launches.

aB-Everything but sideways. Knocks down feet towards.

3A-Catches all but left. Hit stun. Opponent recovers crouching.

2A-Catches all directions. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

1A-Catches all directions. Hit stun. Recovers standing/JF version knocks down.

Umbrella-Catches all directions. Knocks down feet towards. Tricky timing.

BB-Catches all but right. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

bA-Catches all but left. Knocks down.

6B-Everything but sideways. Hit stun. Recovers standing.

3B-Catches all but left. Launches.

2B-Catches all but left. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

1B-Catches all directions. Hit stun. Recovers crouching/JF version knocks down feet towards.

FCB-Catches all but left. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

FC3BB-Catches all directions. Knocks down, feet towards. Tricky timing.

WRB-Everything but sideways. Knocks down feet towards.

3K-Everything but sideways. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

2K-Catches all directions. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

FCK-Catches all directions. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

WRK-Everything but sideways. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

JPK-Catches backwards. Knocks down feet towards.

WR3A+B-Catches all but left. Crumple stun.

B+K-Catches all but right. B+K series properties.

2B+K-Catches all but right. Knocks down head towards.

A+K B-Catches all but right. Knocks down head towards.

66B-Catches all but right. Recovers standing or knocks down.

33B-Catches all but left. Launches.

44B-Catches all but left. Recovers standing or knocks down feet towards.

22K-Everything but sideways. Knocks down feet towards.

11K-Catches all but right. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

22A+B A-Catches all directions. Knocks down.

44A+B-Everything but sideways. Unblockable.

66B+K-Catches all but sideways. Knocks down.

BT2A-Catches all but left. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

BT B-Everything but sideways. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

BT2B-Catches all but right. Hit stun. Recovers crouching.

BT2K-Everything but sideways. Knocks down head towards.

BT B+K B-Catches all but right. Knocks down feet towards.


That's pretty much it!

This comes from 66A+B as I was testing to find the moves properties to get the base for this.
 
Some notables:

2A, 1A, Umbrella, 1B, FC3BB, 2K, FCK, 22A+B A catch all directions.

B+K, bA, and 44B are good damaging standing options.

agB, 3B, 33B and A+K B launch.

Now people, let's share some setups.
 
After A+K (on asta or any character that can tech right A+KB):

2A+B
11B
bA

Best option is 11B because its heavy dmg (up to 90dmg) when we hit them, we don't need timing.

After parry:
for tech left wsK, 3K, umbrella
for tech back, wsK, 66BA, umbrella
for tech right all throws, umbrella, sometimes wsk will work.

Thanks to Cheese for the info.
 
i was able to come up with

33B, Ba(only if time right in the air)
for tec forward or back 33B
i wasnt able to come up with a tec for left and right
 
I need someone to tell me the condition for the tech, but here are the setups for the 11B > 2A+B groundstun:


3B NH > A+KB (CH doesn't work for some reason)

1B:B > 214 B > A+KB

6K CH > A+KB

4K > 33B > A+KB

4K > 33B > 6K > A+KB

Max Range FC3A+B > 33B > A+KB

Max Range FC3A+B > 33B > 6K > A+KB

22A CH

11A CH (slight delay after hit)

33B CH > A+KB

11B > A+KB

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All is needed is the wakeup condition.
 
Here's what I got:

3B NH > A+KB (CH doesn't work for some reason)
11B can be blocked
Hits back/right but does not relaunch

1B:B > 214 B > A+KB
Same as above

4K > 33B > A+KB
Same as above

4K > 33B > 6K > A+KB
Same as above

Max Range FC3A+B > 33B > A+KB
Same as above

11A CH (slight delay after hit)
Can be blocked
Relaunches in all directions

11B > A+KB
Can be blocked
Hits back and right but does not relaunch

Slide
Can be blocked
Relaunches in all directions
 
Angrel-San said:
Produces the stun that leaves them backturned after 33B.

Thanks Shenrei for your help. Guess the groundstun is just a teaser. Wonder why Namco put it since there is no practical way to get it in vs.
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Don’t get it. You mean sit stun? Because ground stun is something different, mitsu fc1BB give ground stun.
And after fc3A+B 33B opp isn’t back turned, after CH 4A yes, but not after it.
And why it's not practical? I get it many times in VS, even those recorded.
And you don’t need max range, it can be done from any range. I thought it’s well known.
 
He's talking about the situations where a 11B relaunch followed by 2A+B gives a groundstun similar to Mitsu FC1BB CH.
 
No Cheese. There is just a little misunderstanding.

Remember SC3 11B > 2A+B groundstun?

Well, it's here again but there are some conditions for it now. Go to training mode default and try some of the setups. You'll see.

The Max Range FC3A+B is just part of the combo for the 11B > 2A+B setup.
 
Nah, LOL!

I'm trying the fad of some of the members.

Setsuka as my top main as the avatar and the other peeps I play on the pictures.

And Algol is awesome!!!
 
Angrel-San said:
No Cheese. There is just a little misunderstanding.

Remember SC3 11B > 2A+B groundstun?

Well, it's here again but there are some conditions for it now. Go to training mode default and try some of the setups. You'll see.

The Max Range FC3A+B is just part of the combo for the 11B > 2A+B setup.
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Sure i remember it. I also have a combo with that for my new CM. Cool will check those setups.
But i was talking about fc3A+B, you don’t need max range to connect 33b.
 
CH33B,6K,236A+B,umbrella.If they get wise and lay there A+K B shennanigans if they roll left 2A+B or 11B.

Catches tech in all directions,good alt to the A+K B stuff and around 90 damage altogether and 65ish if the just lay there.Nothing to sneeze at!!

Tested a bit yesterday on some peeps and seemed viable any feedback would be appreciated.
 
What happens if they stand up and block the umbrella right away after 236A+B? Throwing out umbrella after 236A+B seems to be a very big risk in my eyes.
 
Shenrei said:
What happens if they stand up and block the umbrella right away after 236A+B? Throwing out umbrella after 236A+B seems to be a very big risk in my eyes.
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Good point but i guess then throws and 1:A:A:A come into play so i guess it really turns into a mixup op not so much a tech trap.

But the whole point of the 236A+B is to get ppl to roll most peeps i play tend to tech after being hit by 236A+B though.

which brings up another point what are u guys using after 66A+B these days anyway?
 
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