Setsuka Whiffs/Bugs/Hitbox issues

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Shenrei

[09] Warrior
This thread is for posting any weird hitbox issues that seem character dependent.

V1.02
33B will whiff post 4K on HIT against:

Setsuka
Vader
Mitsu
Siegfried
Nightmare
Hilde
Maxi (will whiff, but not as often as the others)
Voldo (same as Maxi)
Cervantes (whiffs when 4K is done point blank)

I did not test the bonus characters.

It's a bit screwy, but the 33B does tend to hit when 4K is done at max range to the above characters.

UPDATE 1.03

The above seems to have been fixed. I was reliably able to do 33B against Vader post 4K. Haven't tested the other characters but I assume it's the same.

Edit: 33B still whiffs against Setsuka. Have not tested with other characters.

I've also noticed some strange things against Yunsung/Cassandra where wrB will whiff post 1B:B on hit as a tech catcher.

CH22A B+K:B A+KB.... I've noticed that sometimes the A+KB will leave Sets in BT, making you unable to do the umbrella finisher

Also adding info from Cheese:

On X we can delay A+KB just a few frames so it will catch her on tech, but I don’t know if it 100% true without checking it on normal play.

About A+K A.

I made a list of characters, on with you can use A+KA BT A. Because its character dependent.

So, on:
Setsuka, Taki, Tira, Kilik, Yun and Starkiller you can always use BT A after landing A+KA from close mid range. Its almost always guaranteed.

On:
Cass, Nighty, Hilde you can make it, it's guaranteed in about 30-40% on Cass, and about 60-70% on NM and Hilde.

On other characters A+KA BTA is not guaranteed most of time.

There is a bug with A+KA, it can whiff NM and Hilde when they standing doing nothing, this high is to high for them.
 
what about WS B on grounded w/ feet towards? i think it whiffs on all characters, too lazy to check.
 
I just found this. 33B will whiff almost 100 percent from the front or back against Voldo's Mantis Crawl FT2 or HD2 stance. 3B hits, and BB hits, but 33B whiffs.... :/
 
Not yet, well I did, but wasn't sure exactly when would be the best time to apply it. Mantis Crawl K(?) I think has that backflip move where it looks like it could hit her out of the air, but I haven't tested. Same deal with the other stance where his stomach is on the ground. Then again, I can't say I know this matchup well yet. The 33B would whiff when he's flopped over onto his stomach from MC.
 
You mean the sidestep stomach flop from Mantis?

If so, then of course 33B whiffs. It's a verticle avoiding move for just such uses. 33B also whiffs most regular sidesteps as well. You have to be careful about when you use it. I generally try to use it right when the opponent moves (and it's not a sidestep) since it beats out just about every distance move in the game.

And yes, A+K,B seems like a great option to stop Mantis as I'm pretty damn sure the opponent would actually have to guess that you're going to do it beforehand in order to hit with the MC K.
 
Mantis Crawl into [2] or [8] will step, but what I meant was, if he's in that Death Roll stance, 33B will whiff from the front or the back, yet things like 3B will hit.
 
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