Sonic the Hedgehog Thread

IvyFanboy said:
The problem with 3d sonic is quite a few things.

Game Mechanics...sonic games need to be fast...at the same time you need to control your character. It seems the new trend with 3d sonic is they like to have this mix of slow combat and on rails combat/running. The homing spin is probably the worst thing ever done to sonic. Yes it allows us to attack while speeding along...but does it take any skill? Do you feel like you accomplished anything cool and stylish? NO and NO. Old sonic games had lots of different ways to traverse the terrain and a mistake while maneuvering and fighting at break neck speeds simply had you falling to the next. Sonic is stylish when errors can still flow. Grinding a stupid rail and missing a jump and restarting without any freedom sucks balls. Why not make a TON of valid rails and have enemies that can be attack along the way that could give access to better paths if attacked properly. You need that feeling of reward when you do something fast and intricate on the spot. Having to die and restart on some boring on rails routine is tiring and lame.

I say add an area of effect attack while airborne that can home on to an opponent for a cool bounce...if your close though. This float in air slowly then pop the enemy guaranteed attack sucks and has no flare to it.

The characters and story. They need to stop fuckin things up here! Ok we got tails...cool, we got knuckles...really cool...then we got like 45 other fuckers and hedgehogs...THAT CAN ALL RUN ASS FAST AS SONIC AND DO MORE!!! What the fuck is so special about sonic anymore?!? Also Eggman...what the fucking fuck Batman? It's Robotnik...and yes I have smacked a small child for trying to tell me it's Eggman and not Dr Robotnik. Stop with the name changes, stop making sonic obsolete, and create some characters that are interesting rather than buff the online sex life of the yiffing furry elites.

Also stop giving sonic stupid gimicks...Werehog: bad idea, Sword: really bad idea, Shadow gets a gun: Ok...who's giving reach arounds at this office to get this shit passed (I want their number with that kind of "skill").

The worst part about Sonic Team? They repeatedly get horrible reviews and have people point out EXACTLY whats wrong with the game and they still keep fucking up. It's like changing a diaper on a soiled infant only to have it shit on you while trying to fetch it a new one.

Damnit! where's Yahtzee?!? [/rant]

P.S. Sonic 3+Knuckles was godlike!
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*Stands up and applauds*
Great fuckin fuck rant
 
Let's leave this as short as possible for those that don't know.


LAST EXTREMELY OVER THE FUCKING TOP AWESOME SONICE GAME: Sonic 3 (Knuckles optional to extend the game)

LAST DECENT SONIC GAME: Sonic Adventure 2

LAST ATTEMPT TO MAKE ANOTHER AWESOME SONIC GAME THAT CAME CLOSE: Sonic Heroes

EVERYTHING ELSE IN CURRENT GEN SYSTEMS (PS3, Wii, 360, handhelds): Terrible.
 
IvyFanboy said:
Game Mechanics...sonic games need to be fast...at the same time you need to control your character. It seems the new trend with 3d sonic is they like to have this mix of slow combat and on rails combat/running. The homing spin is probably the worst thing ever done to sonic. Yes it allows us to attack while speeding along...but does it take any skill? Do you feel like you accomplished anything cool and stylish? NO and NO. Old sonic games had lots of different ways to traverse the terrain and a mistake while maneuvering and fighting at break neck speeds simply had you falling to the next. Sonic is stylish when errors can still flow. Grinding a stupid rail and missing a jump and restarting without any freedom sucks balls. Why not make a TON of valid rails and have enemies that can be attack along the way that could give access to better paths if attacked properly. You need that feeling of reward when you do something fast and intricate on the spot. Having to die and restart on some boring on rails routine is tiring and lame.

I say add an area of effect attack while airborne that can home on to an opponent for a cool bounce...if your close though. This float in air slowly then pop the enemy guaranteed attack sucks and has no flare to it.
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The only intelligent comment in your post

IvyFanboy said:
The characters and story. They need to stop fuckin things up here! Ok we got tails...cool, we got knuckles...really cool...then we got like 45 other fuckers and hedgehogs...THAT CAN ALL RUN ASS FAST AS SONIC AND DO MORE!!! What the fuck is so special about sonic anymore?!? Also Eggman...what the fucking fuck Batman? It's Robotnik...and yes I have smacked a small child for trying to tell me it's Eggman and not Dr Robotnik. Stop with the name changes, stop making sonic obsolete, and create some characters that are interesting rather than buff the online sex life of the yiffing furry elites.
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Why should you give a shit? Sonic games have never had good stories. They give you a goal, that's it. Complaining about new characters and story is a waste of time when gameplay is the more important issue.

BTW, Eggman has always been his name in Japan. It's not some random name change. If there was a random name change, it was the US changing his name to Robotnik for the US audience. It wasn't until Sonic Adventure that Sega joint the two names together in canon.

IvyFanboy said:
Also stop giving sonic stupid gimicks...Werehog: bad idea, Sword: really bad idea, Shadow gets a gun: Ok...who's giving reach arounds at this office to get this shit passed (I want their number with that kind of "skill").
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Mario is entitled to a rack load of stupid gimmicks but Sonic isn't? Bullshit. Like I said before, the gameplay is more important. If the gameplay was solid, no one would give a shit about the gimmicks if they were there. However, the gameplay is not solid, thus the gimmicks don't work and people are under this strange assumption that it's the gimmicks are the problem, when it's really the basis of the gameplay.

People love to hate Sonic games for STUPID reasons rather than logical reasons.
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR...and this might just be complete chance...millions of fans and video game players alike have scorned Sonic Teams ever continuing fuck ups and repeatedly trying to cover up bad game play with a gimick or the cluster fuck of excessively bad plot lines (even by anime standards) and characters.

Mario isn't trying to hide anything with his gimicks. He uses the gimick for purpose and executes it well, I'm not even a mario fan or a Nintendo fan for that matter and I can't find fault with the out of work plumber (I have yet to see him fix a pipe).

Also...and this is the one where your panties might hopefully retract from your rectum...I might be going for that humor angle based of mild annoyances after stating valid points in a coherent manner and seeking a more enjoyable post. Really...whens the last time "fucking fuck" was used to state a point successfully? Lol, internets people.
 
I like a lot of the 2D sonic games, and a few of the 3D ones too. But I'll post my favorites later. But on quick note. I wish 3D epople would stop complaining about 3D sonic. I honsetly don't see the point why we bitch and moan about this guy.
 
IvyFanboy said:
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR...and this might just be complete chance...millions of fans and video game players alike have scorned Sonic Teams ever continuing fuck ups and repeatedly trying to cover up bad game play with a gimick or the cluster fuck of excessively bad plot lines (even by anime standards) and characters.

Mario isn't trying to hide anything with his gimicks. He uses the gimick for purpose and executes it well, I'm not even a mario fan or a Nintendo fan for that matter and I can't find fault with the out of work plumber (I have yet to see him fix a pipe).
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Firstly, No one is denying that Sega is fucking up and continuing to do so.

Secondly, Sega does not try to "cover up" bad gameplay with gimmicks. They simply present those gimmicks and fuck up on the development resulting in a shitty game. I'm simply tired of people blaming the gimmicks as if even in the hands of skillful developers, the project still wouldn't have worked because that is NOT the case (Look at Dimps and BioWare for an easy example).

I'll bet you all the money in the world that if Sega had paid Insomniac to develop Shadow the Hedgehog, it would have actually been a good game.
 
Ok strip away the gimicks. Whats the evolution of sonic 3d games? Not much. We still see the same formula. On rails traversing, homing attack on slow parts, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...?

I say they hide behind the gimicks because they put much more time into the gimick than fixing the core issues unrelated to the gimick. I literally think their meetings go like this:

Bob from accounting - "Hey the kids aren't liking our games, maybe we should listen to our fans and fix what they've been complaining about in the mechanics"

Boss - "Bill that's a stupid idea, what we need is an extreme makeover. Grab the last sonic game, research what animals are all the craze in the furry circle, and find a way to make sonic...ummm...EXTREME!"

Bob from accounting - "Make him what?"

Boss - "EXTREME Bill-"

Bob from accounting - "It's Bob"

Boss - "Whatever...Give him a sword and a cat friend or something and just repackage the last game we made...oooooh and can we do this one underwater?"

Bob from accounting - "Why? Wont that slow him down?"

Boss - "Ooooh and he can grind on water skiis....kids are gonna love it"

Bob from accounting - "I hate you..."

*BTW all voice acting done by that boss from Spiderman for the Daily Bugle. Bob wishes to one day design and save sonic...
 
How many of you actually played through Sonic Unleashed? If you honestly think that game wasn't good then you more than likely have a huge bias or are a retard. Unleashed was actually a good game. You don't like the werehog levels? Oh well, they were still platforming fun (because you know, every single sonic game was you going fast right?) though I did prefer the day time levels. The day levels were amazing and encompassed a lot of what I wanted in a Sonic game. They even are starting to release DLC with revamped stages that are harder, have more obstacles and some all new stages as well.

Old school sonic is good, but of the newer gen sonics Unleashed actually gets a lot right. Stop going into blind hate mode and actually look into a game instead of assuming it's crap.

[edit] Goes to show more ignorance, Ivyfanboys rant mentions lots of things that Unleashed does right. GASP A PERSON TALKING SHIT WHO HASN"T ACTUALLY PLAYED THE GAME? IMPOSSIBLE!

-Sonic is the only character you play
-Robotnik is the villain and you don't team up with him
-Tails helps out but you don't actually play him
-Sonic is extremely fast and you are rewarded for 'bouncing' off enemies and such to get to different platforms / areas. When you fight enemies that are not in the air you never have to even stop most of the time in day time stages.
-There is a boost button, so even if you come to a stop you can start a break neak speed right away.
-Each level has multiple pathways.
-Werehog is actually entertaining imo. Like I said I prefer daytime, but the night stages have some fun platforming.
-Story was ... well it's a Sonic story. Cheesy but enjoyable.
-Bosses are fun.
 
Ceirnian said:
They even are starting to release DLC with revamped stages that are harder, have more obstacles and some all new stages as well.
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Someone PLEASE tell me they are gonna do this for the ps3 version too, I haven't even heard of something like this yet. Reminds me of when they released more DLC for the 360 version of sonic 06. Dumb as hell for ps3 users.
 
Not sure about the ps3 version, I know it's been on live for like two weeks or so. I should really go buy it now that I think about it.

[edit] wow theres another new level pack up. That makes two I need to buy, only 250 ms a piece and it's brand new content... not locked on the disc.

http://sonicstadium.org/news/spagonia-adventure-pack-now-on-xbox-live

[edit2] Video of one of the spagonia packs heavily platform oriented levels. Hell yeah I have to buy these asap, harder levels should suck up a decent amount of my time.

 
OMG Cedric thank you. I just creamed my pants. Dynamics in Unleashed are just too amazing.
 
L-O-FUCKING-L

Reminds me of this. Granted it isn't as disturbing as the one you posted but it's funny as hell.

PS: I just gave away where I got my PSN name from, lulz.
 
Mizuiro: That had to be written by CY. You can't convince me otherwise. It made me laugh in delight but weep for English language.
 
ShinobiBrown said:
L-O-FUCKING-L

Reminds me of this. Granted it isn't as disturbing as the one you posted but it's funny as hell.

PS: I just gave away where I got my PSN name from, lulz.
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Indeed, that was an amusing fan-fic... But I think The Sonic Fan-Fic is a bit better.

mikosu said:
Mizuiro: That had to be written by CY. You can't convince me otherwise. It made me laugh in delight but weep for English language.
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Pardon my borderline mental retardation, but who is CY?
 
Ok, I looked around a little and found out that at both of the packs is already on the ps3. Catch is that they are on the Japanese version. I guess that's fair, seeing as how the U.S version came out a couple months before the Japanese version.

I wonder how long ps3 users will have to wait though.
 
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