Sophitia Combos

Suirad

[10] Knight
:6::bA: >>
*:2::B::K: >> :8::A+B: 76 $+
*:2::B::K: >> :4::4::B+K: 74+
*:2::3::6:::B: 56

:3::B: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 54
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 61
*:CE: 75
*:SC::4::A+B::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 77

:LH::2::B::K: >>
*:8::A+B: 73 $
*:4::4::B+K: 69

CH:6::K: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: 50 & (so far I know it doesn't work on Xianghua, Seung Mi-na & Talim)
*:4::4::B+K: 49

CH:1::K:>>
*:3::K: 30

:1::(K):>>
*:3::B: 46

:LH::1::(K): >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 81
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 74
*WR:B+K: >> :2::2::B::A::K: 88
*:CE: 96
*:SC: WR :B+K: >>:2::3::6: :A+B: >> :2::3::6::6::B:/:8::A+B: 105

:A+B: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: 56

:LH::A+B: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 86
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 78
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::A+B+K: >> :1::K: 94
*:CE: 102

:6::A+B: >> :GI::A: >>
*:6::B::A::2::B::K::8::A+B: 69 $+
*:6::B::A::2::B::K::4::4::B+K: 67 +
*:SC::2::B::B::4: 78

:6::A+B: >> :GI::K: >>
*:2::3::6::B: 46
*:CE: 78 & (Only works on large characters, males + Taki, Ivy)

:SC::4::A+B::B: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: 67

:8::A+B: >>
*:3::K: 50

:8::(A+B): >>
*:3::K: 70

WR :B+K: >>
*:3::K: 38
*:SC: 30

:2::2:*:8::8::A: >>
*:1::K: 40

CH:4::4::A: >>
*:2::3::6:::B: 59
*:2::3::6::B::B: >> :4::B: 63
*:2::3::6::B::B: >> *:2::3::6::B::B: 66
*:CE: 78

:6::6::B: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 68-70
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 62
*WR:B+K: >> :2::2::B::A::K: 77 &% (Works on Siegfried, not Sophitia or Astaroth)
*WR :B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 75-76 &%
*WR :B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 70 &%
*:CE: 86
*:SC::4::A+B::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 87

:LH: :4::4::B: >>
*:8::8::A+B: >> WR :B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B:
*:8::8::A+B: >> WR :B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::A+B+K: >> :1::K: 71
*:A+B: >> :2::3::6::A+B+K: >> :1::K: 71 (sometimes flips camera)
*:SC: :8::8::A+B: >> WR :B+K: >> :2::3::6: :A+B: >> :2::3::6::6::B:/:8::A+B: 87

:6::6::K: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 60
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 52
*:CE: 76
*:SC::4::A+B::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 87

:4::4::K: >>
*:2::3::6:::B: 58
*:CE: 85 & (Only works on large characters, males + Taki, Ivy)

:LH::6::6::A+B: >>
*:2::2::A+B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 98
*:2::2::A+B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 101
*:2::2::A+B: >> :CE: 107

CH:6::6::B+K::A::B:
*:2::G:~ :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 82
*:2::G:~ :2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 75
*:CE: 87

:LH::4::4::B+K:>>
*Run~:2::2::B+K: 66
*:2::3::6:~:6::B: 66

Run :K: >>
*:3::K: 35

:LH::6::6::A+G: >>
*:6::6::B: 67

:LH::2::3::6::K: >>
*:2::3::6::6:::B:::4: 73
*:CE: 83
*:SC::2::B::B::4: 99

CH:2::3::6::6::A::A: >>
*:2::3::6:::B: 82
*:2::3::6:::B:::4: 97 &(Siegfried & Nightmare only)

:LH::2::3::6::6::A::B: >>
*:6::B::A: >> :2::B::K::LH: >> :8::A+B: 101 $+
*:6::B::A: >> :2::B::K::LH: >> :4::4::B+K: 100 +
*:3::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 81
*:3::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 75
*:CE: 91

:LH::2::3::6::6::B: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B::4: 77+
*:6::K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 71 &
*:6::K: >> :6::6::B: 67
*:2::3::6:::B: 68

:LH::SC::2::3::6::6::B: >>
*:6::B::A: >> :2::B::K::LH: >> :8::A+B: 108 $+
*:6::B::A: >> :2::B::K::LH: >> :4::4::B+K: 107 +
*:SC::3::B: >> :4::A+B::B: >>:2::3::6::6::B: 90

:LH::RE::A: >>
*:6::B::A: >> :2::B::K: >> :8::A+B: 65 $
*:6::B::A: >> :2::B::K: >> :4::4::B+K: 64

:RE::A::6: >>
*:B:::4: 51
*:SC::6::B::4: 61

:LH::RE::A::6: >>
*:6::A::A: >> :2::3::6:::B: 58
*:6::A::A: >> :2::3::6:::B:::4: 65 & (Siegfried and Nightmare only)

:RE::B: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 45
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 42
*:CE: 56

:LH::RE::B: >>
*:2::2::A+B: >> WR:B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 66
*:2::2::A+B: >> WR:B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 68
*:8::B+K::K: >> BT:B+K: 54 (Reverse RO)
*:SC:WR:B+K: >> :4::4::A+B::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 77
*:2::2::A+B: >> :CE: 75

:RE::K: >>
*:2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 41 & (Doesn't work on Mina :RE::B: or Astaroth)
* :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 46 & (Doesn't work on Mina :RE::B: or Astaroth)
*:6::6::B: 27 & (Works on Astaroth)
*:SC::4::A+B::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 52 & (Doesn't work on Mina :RE::B: or Astaroth)
*:CE: 59 & (Doesn't work on Mina :RE::B: or Astaroth)

:LH::RE::K: >>
*:2::2::A+B: >> WR:B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 65 & (Doesn't work on Mina :RE::B: or Astaroth)
*:2::2::A+B: >> WR :B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 68 & (Doesn't work on Mina :RE::B: or Astaroth)
*:2::2::A+B: >> WR :B+K: >> :CE: 78 & (Doesn't work on Mina :RE::B: or Astaroth)
*WR:B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :4::B: 66 & (Only works on Mina :RE::B:)
*WR:B+K: >> :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: 70 & (Only works on Mina :RE::B:)
*WR:B+K: >> :CE: 82 & (Only works on Mina :RE::B:)


$ Doesn't always work near ring edge
+ Opponent must be aligned towards you
& Character Specific
% Distance Dependent

Here's my second pass on Sophie combos. A lot of :2::3::6::6::B: >> :2::3::6::6::B: in there. Got something better or know something that is posted is escapable (air control/ukemi)? Say so! If it is good I'll add it to first post. Please test to reasonably be sure anything you post is not escapable though. Character specific stuff is fine as long as we have a decent idea who it does and doesn't work against.
 
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GroovyValentine

[02] Apprentice
Much thanks! What would you say is the easiest one for comboing into her Critical Edge? And in lists where there are a few lines of combos with CE at the bottom, does that mean you can do a CE after any of those combo lines?
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
Much thanks! What would you say is the easiest one for comboing into her Critical Edge? And in lists where there are a few lines of combos with CE at the bottom, does that mean you can do a CE after any of those combo lines?
Any low launcher into CE is easy, 66K, 44B, 3B you can just mash the CE out. It's also true for a few :LH: hits like :1::(K):

The combo options are either-or, so each line after the initial hit is a path through a combo continuation and you can't do any of the other lines.


Anyone figured out the combo after her LH 66A+G?
Darn, I had tested this and did not write it down. It was something unspectacular like a single grounded hit. You could :4::B: and probably get most of the damage compared to whatever is optimal. I will have to figure it out again later. In the mean time, the Sophie discord probably has something for that already if you do not want to wait.

/edit/ Max damage I found was is :6::6::B: for 67
 
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akocham

Premium Member
Awesome stuff! Find anything on LH K? I've been doing 2BB:4

Edit: HolyCarp did some testing and found that TAS B:4 or CE does the most damage as a follow up
 
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Suirad

[10] Knight
@Suirad 22A, 4B DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A COMBO FROM MY TESTING.
Under what conditions? Can you tech as Sophie? I was back and forth on that one because I had people getting out in matches, but I couldn't do it myself when I set a recording and tried to escape. I thought I was failing to react on time or something like that.

Either way 3K should not be escapable.

Also, for the adventurous, Sophie's tech trap situation from SC IV seems to mostly hold for that knockdown if you want to look for that info in her old SA.

/edit/ I tested again and still cannot get out, nor can the computer set to ukemi randomly. I need some more details about why it is failing for you
 
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akocham

Premium Member
For CH 44A, You can do 3B as follow up for 59 total damage. Not a combo but it looks to be guaranteed. Does same dmg as 236:B but execution is easier

You can also apparently does TAS B, 4B as follow up, but the timing window is super tight
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
@Suirad thanks, great tips! Cool that it looks like Sophie's CE is one of the smoothest to combo into.
I think the design they were going for was as combo filler super. It does hit step which is nice, but it's properties are not really great otherwise. It isn't that fast and is punishable on block so it's not great as a poke, a reversal or a punisher.
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
For CH 44A, You can do 3B as follow up for 59 total damage. Not a combo but it looks to be guaranteed. Does same dmg as 236:B but execution is easier

You can also apparently does TAS B, 4B as follow up, but the timing window is super tight
I am suprised to hear that 3B and 236:B would grant the same damage since the base damage is so far apart. I suspect something is going on there. Regardless, I'll test these when I get home tonight.
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
BTW, what does everyone think of readability? I changed everything to include the SC button notation, but could change it back if it hurts too much to look at.
 

akocham

Premium Member
I am suprised to hear that 3B and 236:B would grant the same damage since the base damage is so far apart. I suspect something is going on there. Regardless, I'll test these when I get home tonight.
My guess is that 236:B combos so maybe it is scaled? I remember seeing 46 for CH A and 13 for 3B but I will test again tonight in case I missed something
 

Flamegeyser

[04] Fighter
I think you can get 66B > WR B+K > 66 BAK if you're quick, does 77 damage, but there may be some way to escape it that I haven't thought of
 

Flamegeyser

[04] Fighter
Sophitia doesn;t have a 66 BAK string... Its either 88 BAK or something else entirely
Hah, yes my bad, I mistyped, that is what I meant. Still, I thought I was getting it to work on the women, but maybe there was an option they could have picked to escape that I missed
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
My guess is that 236:B combos so maybe it is scaled? I remember seeing 46 for CH A and 13 for 3B but I will test again tonight in case I missed something
I am getting 55 damage for this combo, 42 and 13. It is interesting that the game does not consider it a combo, but there is no way out of it. In prior games when that happened, the opponent could lessen the damage by not pressing any buttons, but that does not seem to be the case either. I'll list it as another combo for ease of input,