"Objectification" is a loaded political SJW term, if you don't want to be mistaken for one of those guys, don't ever use the word. Simple as that. Otherwise you are asking for a certain reaction.
Kilmat, I...just don't know how many times I can say this and in how many different ways before it's clear to parties who want to label any contrary opinions of their beloved fanservice as SJW-based. But you've typically struck me as a rational enough person, so I will try saying it just one more time: I used that term
expressly to distinguish what I was
not talking about. I trust you understand that just by invoking a concept as a matter of comparison, someone is not themselves advocating that same argument? Conciously or not, I feel you are availing yourself of an argument that allows you to feel you are fighting political correctness run amok, but for the last time, such considerations were not the predicate for my argument. There are arguments in that area to be made, I am sure, but I left them cleanly to the side to fixate on something else entirely: that the I feel the "sex appeal" being discussed here is over-baked and silly. Speaking of which...
1). Please stop trying to falsely associate your stance with words like "mature" and "adult", that's a pure manipulation. There are a lots of adults who enjoy sexy art, you don't get to privatise adultness for your personal gain and then talk down to others from your assumed height since those opposing "an adult" are automatically assumed to be "immature" children whose opinions are inherently less valuable. It's a bad manipulation that would not stand.
Except, I'm not advancing the argument that my personal sense of taste is objective reality and have not done so at any point in this thread. I (and others) have simply said that it feels immature
to us--if you choose to interpret that as an 'SJW' infringement/attack on your own taste, that's on you, and nobody else. Nobody is judging you here. If you get a little tingle out of the experience rather than an urge to laugh and shake your head, that's fine. Nobody said boo about that. But the argument that only someone obsessed with political correctness would not Soul Calibur breast-oriented fanservice sexy is asinine, brother.
2). If you don't like the sexiness for non-political reasons, fine, that's your right. But don't expect not to get any backfire. I like the sexiness and in the face of sexiness getting erased from games left and right (mostly for political reasons above all), my only way to ensure I actually get what I want is to join the opposition and make sure our voice is heard loud and clear. Certainly we will not go quietly into the night and allow others to walk over us, even more so when we believe the other side is actually a minority, that's way to loud for its actual size.
Kilmat, my friend, did you really just quote "Don't go quietly into that night" in defense of your support for an ad featuring Ivy's ginormous cleavage? I'm not sure that's exactly what Thomas was thinking about when sitting the death vigil, homie.
Anyway, getting to the substance of your point, it's not so much that I don't like the sexiness (for political or non-political reasons); it's that I don't find it to be sexy in the first place. Fan service fixating on inflated animated breasts straining against digital latex just doesn't do it for me. I'm sorry, but that is about as sexy as a waffle iron to me. And I don't think I'm alone in that.
I never claimed something being a common feature of human social interaction makes it a virtue by itself. I claimed something being a common feature of human social interaction that allows society to actually work and progress forward towards common good for everyone is in fact great.
Ok, but just so you know, I manage think about the various service industry employees I make use of in the average day as human beings, not "robots", and miraculously, when I get home, I still have enough "care" in me to be affectionate to my loved ones. So you might want to give it a try--you could end up surprised at what you are capable of...and I suspect you'll end up with less bodily fluids in your to-go meals as a consequence. :D All joking aside though dude, I don't find your argument on the virtue of objectification very compelling, but I think we can probably both agree this isn't the forum to resolve such lofty issues and we shouldn't press tolerance of our having gotten off into the weeds any further. You can always message me if you want to have that philosophical debate, but for the purposes of the thread, i think we can just agree to disagree.