sooo, messing around with the tech traps lately.
It seems that when you tech, you create a fairly small window where you can not guard things, this is the very simply and well known mechanic that makes tech traps possible.
I got to thinking and said to myself 'self, if specific things lead into tech traps, why couldent the same be applied to ANY situation where the opponent techs up, as in, non-canned tech traps' and it turns out that you CAN catch any tech in ANY instance that your opponent techs up, its just a small window, and hard to time.
Tested this stuff off of WS B, but my findings could be applied to ANY unshakeable stun that knocks down, for any character. Technically it could be applied to any knockdown, but the timing becomes much harder when you dont have a stuns animation to guide yourself by.
Its slightly hard to explain this, and its only useful until opponents catch on (as with any tech traps)
WS B, 66B is a staple combo, but if you forgo the 66B you can play with tech traps all day. These traps all have to be done with timing, but they all work for sure, and the timing isnt that hard. Tested, double and tripple tested. Tested on humans and myself.
WS B -> Asura - catches normal, front and back techs. turns WS B into HUGE damage for people who tech
WS B -> WS B - catches front, back, normal, and one side (i think its right) this only works a few times before people learn, but if you have someone tech happy this will KEEP hitting them. Its a tech trap loop.
WS B -> 2A - catches all techs.
WS B -> 22_88KB catches all techs - 11 more damage than 66B. not huge but more damage is more damage.
WS B -> 44aB - catches all but one side (think its right again) this one might be able to be interupted, but im not 100% on that. If they tech they take it, but if they roll it will miss. this one i havent tested fully.
thats all ive been able to find for Kilik so far. post if you all find anything along this line. its not super usefull, but its a HUGE insentive for people to not tech up, which leads to really good setups. Ive been using BP mixups against people who learn to not tech.
Also, i realize you have to give up the 66B guaranteed damage on these, but the reward for it can be VERY high. even once people stop teching, a BP mixup is almost as good as free damage in my mind.
It seems that when you tech, you create a fairly small window where you can not guard things, this is the very simply and well known mechanic that makes tech traps possible.
I got to thinking and said to myself 'self, if specific things lead into tech traps, why couldent the same be applied to ANY situation where the opponent techs up, as in, non-canned tech traps' and it turns out that you CAN catch any tech in ANY instance that your opponent techs up, its just a small window, and hard to time.
Tested this stuff off of WS B, but my findings could be applied to ANY unshakeable stun that knocks down, for any character. Technically it could be applied to any knockdown, but the timing becomes much harder when you dont have a stuns animation to guide yourself by.
Its slightly hard to explain this, and its only useful until opponents catch on (as with any tech traps)
WS B, 66B is a staple combo, but if you forgo the 66B you can play with tech traps all day. These traps all have to be done with timing, but they all work for sure, and the timing isnt that hard. Tested, double and tripple tested. Tested on humans and myself.
WS B -> Asura - catches normal, front and back techs. turns WS B into HUGE damage for people who tech
WS B -> WS B - catches front, back, normal, and one side (i think its right) this only works a few times before people learn, but if you have someone tech happy this will KEEP hitting them. Its a tech trap loop.
WS B -> 2A - catches all techs.
WS B -> 22_88KB catches all techs - 11 more damage than 66B. not huge but more damage is more damage.
WS B -> 44aB - catches all but one side (think its right again) this one might be able to be interupted, but im not 100% on that. If they tech they take it, but if they roll it will miss. this one i havent tested fully.
thats all ive been able to find for Kilik so far. post if you all find anything along this line. its not super usefull, but its a HUGE insentive for people to not tech up, which leads to really good setups. Ive been using BP mixups against people who learn to not tech.
Also, i realize you have to give up the 66B guaranteed damage on these, but the reward for it can be VERY high. even once people stop teching, a BP mixup is almost as good as free damage in my mind.