Vader Frame Data+Wiki Link

RiBu

RiBu

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Frame data courtesy of our partner Ground Zero.

Darth Vader:

i14: 1B/ FC A
i15: K/FC A+B
i17: A/ FC B
i18: 4B/4A/2B/44B/3B+K/2K/WS K/3KB/2K/FC K
i19: 6K/4B+K/6A/WS B/2A+B/4A+B
i20: 6B/3B/1K/4K/B/66K/B+K/11A/WS B+K
i21: 33_99B+K
i21~i22= 8K/66_33_99A/66_33_99A+K
i22: 3A
i23: 44A
i24: WS A/WS aG
i25: 44B+K
i26: 66B/66bG/33_99B/2A
i27: 8A/2B+K
i27~28: 8 way run A+B
i30: 8B/2[A+B]/22_88K/11_77K
i35: 44K
i36: 236A+B/11_77B

HORIZONTAL ATTACKS

A=-1 on block, +2 on hit, +3 on counter
AA= -3 on block, +5 on hit
6A= -7 on block, +2 on hit, +3 on counter
3A= -7 on block, -5 on hit, -1 on counter
2A= -7 on block, -3 on hit, -1 on counter
1A= -11 on block, -1 on hit and counter
4AA=- 7 on block, +2 on hit
FC A= -8 on block, +2 on hit, +4 on counter
WS A= -2 on block
WS aG= causes blocklock. probably -2
8A= -13 on block

VERTICAL ATTACKS

B= -8 on block, +2 on hit and counter
BB= -8 on block, stun on hit/counter
6B= -8 on block, -5 on hit and counter
6BB= -11 on block
6BbG= -7 on block
6BbG a+bG= +2 on block (if done perfectly that is)
3B= -14 on block
2B= -9 on block, -3 on hit, +1 on on counter
1B= -13 on block, -9 on hit, +5 on counter
1BA= -4 on block, over +6 on hit/counter
4B= -5 on block
FC B= -7 on block, +1 on hit, +3 on counter
WS B= -7 on block, +0 on hit and counter
8B= -7 on block, +1 on hit and counter

KICK ATTACKS

K= -8 on block, +2 on hit and counter
6K= -7 on block, -2 on hit and counter
3K= -10 on block, -5 on hit, -1 on counter
3KB= -8 on block, +4 on hit (ch 3K)
2K= -11 on block, -7 on hit and counter
1K= -5 on block, - 4 on hit and counter
4K= -8 on block, +3 on hit and counter
FC K= -10 on block, -5 on hit, -1 on counter
WS K= -8 on block, -1 on hit and counter
8K= -8 on on block, -3 on hit and counter

SIMULTANEOUS PRESS MOVES

2A+B= -5 on block, +3 on hit
2[A+B]= +0 on block
4A+B= -14 on block,-2 on hit, +5 on counter
236A+B= +6 on block
FC A+B= +7 on block
B+K= -2 on block, +4 on hit and counter
B+KB= -1 on block, +4 on hit, +7 on counter
B+KBB= -18 on block
3B+K= -12 on block
2B+K= -15 on block
4B+K= -15 on block, -7 on hit
WS B+K= -10 on block
A+K=0 on block, +4 on hit and counter
A+KA=-12 on block, +1 on hit

8-WAY RUN MOVES

66/33/A= -9 on block, +4 on hit
99A= -9~-10 on block, +3~4
22/88A= -11 on block, -9 on hit and counter
11/77A= -6 on block, -3 on hit, +2 on counter
11/77AB= -14 on block
44A= - 7 on block but the blockstun is huuuuuuuuuuuuuge, +5 on hit, +9 on counter
66B= -17
66bG= -6 on block, +4 on hit and counter
66bG= +4 on block, +15 on hit and counter (if done perfectly that is)
33/99B= -13 on block
22/88B= -11 on block
22/88bG= -3 on block, +3 on hit and counter
22/88bG a+bG= +5 on block, +10 on hit and counter (if done perfectly that is)
11/77B= -7 on block
44B= -19 on block
44B a+bG= +0 on block (if done perfectly that is)
66/33/99K= -10 on block, -1 on hit and counter
22/88K= -6
11/77K= -11 on block, +0 on hit and counter
44K= -2 on block
8 way run A+B= +2 on block
33/99B+K= -8 on block
44B+K= -16 on block
44B+K a+bG= -8 on block (if done perfectly that is)
66/33/99A+K= -9 on block
22/88A+K= -7 on block
44A+K= -1 on block

http://www.8wayrun.com/wiki/Darth_Vader:SC4:FD:ALL
 
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hold off for a bit tbh. i need to go back and make sure some of the i18 moves aren't i17. I did this pretty fast. 4B+K is i18 for sure though.
 
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Alright everything check's out at i18 right.

FCA+B i have at i18 as well
 
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RiBu, what are you testing against? I'm getting different results. 1BA 4A A 2B 2K check out. I got K, FCA+B to be i15; 6K, 4B as i19; 6A, B, B+K, 3B, 6B as i20. what is 6A+K(it's not on the movelist)?
 
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Like i said a lot of it was done in a hurry and needed to go back and check.
 
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I've got 4A+B to me -on hit and block. on block it's -14, and on hit it's at least -2.

2A+B looks to give about +2 or more on hit on hit.

Also Vader seems to be absurdly safe. Even shit with minus on block he can just do 1B and avoid all highs and beat out most mids.

Also i think 6A+K was just A+K, but not sure i may have just put it in there by accident.
 
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Hey, could you test 8G:K? It is definitely visually faster than 8K, I might start using it a lot more.
 
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Swoops said:
Hey, could you test 8G:K? It is definitely visually faster than 8K, I might start using it a lot more.
Click to expand...

Apparently all jump attacks work like that, you get 1 frame for it and it gives you your TJ a frame sooner too.
 
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LOL!

Post it Ribu, hehe.

Frame data courtesy of our partner Ground Zero.

Darth Vader:

i14: 1B/ FC A
i15: K/FC A+B
i17: A/ FC B
i18: 4B/4A/2B/44B/3B+K/2K/WS K/3KB/2K/FC K
i19: 6K/4B+K/6A/WS B/2A+B/4A+B
i20: 6B/3B/1K/4K/B/66K/B+K/11A/WS B+K
i21: 33_99B+K
i21~i22= 8K/66_33_99A/66_33_99A+K
i22: 3A
i23: 44A
i24: WS A/WS aG
i25: 44B+K
i26: 66B/66bG/33_99B/2A
i27: 8A/2B+K
i27~28: 8 way run A+B
i30: 8B/2[A+B]/22_88K/11_77K
i35: 44K
i36: 236A+B/11_77B

HORIZONTAL ATTACKS

A=-1 on block, +2 on hit, +3 on counter
AA= -3 on block, +5 on hit
6A= -7 on block, +2 on hit, +3 on counter
3A= -7 on block, -5 on hit, -1 on counter
2A= -7 on block, -3 on hit, -1 on counter
1A= -11 on block, -1 on hit and counter
4AA=- 7 on block, +2 on hit
FC A= -8 on block, +2 on hit, +4 on counter
WS A= -2 on block
WS aG= causes blocklock. probably -2
8A= -13 on block

VERTICAL ATTACKS

B= -8 on block, +2 on hit and counter
BB= -8 on block, stun on hit/counter
6B= -8 on block, -5 on hit and counter
6BB= -11 on block
6BbG= -7 on block
6BbG a+bG= +2 on block (if done perfectly that is)
3B= -14 on block
2B= -9 on block, -3 on hit, +1 on on counter
1B= -13 on block, -9 on hit, +5 on counter
1BA= -4 on block, over +6 on hit/counter
4B= -5 on block
FC B= -7 on block, +1 on hit, +3 on counter
WS B= -7 on block, +0 on hit and counter
8B= -7 on block, +1 on hit and counter

KICK ATTACKS

K= -8 on block, +2 on hit and counter
6K= -7 on block, -2 on hit and counter
3K= -10 on block, -5 on hit, -1 on counter
3KB= -8 on block, +4 on hit (ch 3K)
2K= -11 on block, -7 on hit and counter
1K= -5 on block, - 4 on hit and counter
4K= -8 on block, +3 on hit and counter
FC K= -10 on block, -5 on hit, -1 on counter
WS K= -8 on block, -1 on hit and counter
8K= -8 on on block, -3 on hit and counter

SIMULTANEOUS PRESS MOVES

2A+B= -5 on block, +3 on hit
2[A+B]= +0 on block
4A+B= -14 on block,-2 on hit, +5 on counter
236A+B= +6 on block
FC A+B= +7 on block
B+K= -2 on block, +4 on hit and counter
B+KB= -1 on block, +4 on hit, +7 on counter
B+KBB= -18 on block
3B+K= -12 on block
2B+K= -15 on block
4B+K= -15 on block, -7 on hit
WS B+K= -10 on block
A+K=0 on block, +4 on hit and counter
A+KA=-12 on block, +1 on hit

8-WAY RUN MOVES

66/33/A= -9 on block, +4 on hit
99A= -9~-10 on block, +3~4
22/88A= -11 on block, -9 on hit and counter
11/77A= -6 on block, -3 on hit, +2 on counter
11/77AB= -14 on block
44A= - 7 on block but the blockstun is huuuuuuuuuuuuuge, +5 on hit, +9 on counter
66B= -17
66bG= -6 on block, +4 on hit and counter
66bG= +4 on block, +15 on hit and counter (if done perfectly that is)
33/99B= -13 on block
22/88B= -11 on block
22/88bG= -3 on block, +3 on hit and counter
22/88bG a+bG= +5 on block, +10 on hit and counter (if done perfectly that is)
11/77B= -7 on block
44B= -19 on block
44B a+bG= +0 on block (if done perfectly that is)
66/33/99K= -10 on block, -1 on hit and counter
22/88K= -6
11/77K= -11 on block, +0 on hit and counter
44K= -2 on block
8 way run A+B= +2 on block
33/99B+K= -8 on block
44B+K= -16 on block
44B+K a+bG= -8 on block (if done perfectly that is)
66/33/99A+K= -9 on block
22/88A+K= -7 on block
44A+K= -1 on block
 
Vader Frame Data-1/4 done

Thanks for posting this here, it'll make doing the wiki a lot easier.

I have A at i18, 2A at i27, 1A at i26 with -10 1 1, WS A at i25 with -1 13 13, 3A as -8 -3 0, 2A as -10 on guard, 4A as -4 0 0, 4AA as -6 3 3, WS aG at i25 with -1 5 5, WSaGA+BG 22 18 18.
can anyone else check these for confirmation?

/edit/ alright, but I still can't reproduce much of the listed data.
 
I just updated the frame data wiki. Noticed a whole bunch of stuff missing (like force cancels), and some of the Soul Gauge damage was wrong.
 
Does anyone know if Vader has any just-frame moves. I've been playing SC4 since the game came out and, for the life of me, I can't find any just-frame moves!! Does any exist for him?
 
I got 6BbGa+bG as a +4 on grd, also the SHK from that move is +14, so 6BbGa+bG, 1BA is the only legitamate combo out of that stun... I didn't think he had any just frame moves really, although getting the force cancels down is essential...
 
Vader has 2 very useful JF's.

FH 4A+B:3B+K and FH:A+B (A+B must be pressed at the earliest possible frame, 2P only).

They aren't 'official' JF's because they don't have a flash, the first one is in a combo, and the other is a glitch.

FH = Force Hang (4A+B AT).
 
The first one there, (FH 4A+B:3B+K) is a combo because Vader gets a raw +26 after FH 4A+B...
But the second one (FH:A+B) I have no clue what that does, mind explaining???
 
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