Siegfried SCV Non-Gameplay Related Discussion

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lol yea but its an invisible low poke thats about the same speed as amy 1A. we dont want amy 1A do we? dumb question, but im trying to think balance.
 
My God its been forever since I posted on 8WR, so long that I'm O.O at all these visual changes the forum has gone through.
but hearing that SCV is in the works (sorta). I'd give my opinon on SCV siegfried.
For one thing i'd like to see him get rid of some useless moves (at least to me)
like the 4BBB (Headbutt? it's been awhile since I played) or SSH A.
It would be nicer if he had less frame disadvatange after completing his moves but then he would just lose his "slow" factor, because you know, it gives him an edge.
 
U mean SRSH A :p SSH A is a fast low hit.

in either case welcome back to 8wayrun man! idk if u remember me, but its been a while since i've seen u around here.
i do agree with getting rid of or fixing 44B and SRSH A yes.
as for the frame disadvantage thing, i'd say just do it for certain moves. other moves are fine the way they are, in the name of balance lol.
 
Ive been reading this thread and i like what im seeing, but just because we want to see these changes in Siegfried doesnt mean theyll make them right? Or am i wrong and will Namco be smart and read the suggestions made by the 8wr community about their characters, such as how we're doing this for Sig, and actually make those changes in SC5?
 
If thyre smart they won't, a lot of characters want really out of hand buffs like astaroth. I like that these threads help keep the DA active and we can focus on what we can debate would make a more fun character but for the sake of balance I hope most these threads arent taken seriously.
 
Well if they dont know what made some people in this game so broken and some so low tier, how will they know what to fix and balance? The reason why theres even a SC5 is because of the community, why not go to them for balancing and issues?
 
less predictability. seig is one of my tops but i rarely use him on ranked matches against decent players. and cuz lag+seig= :(
 
sephalump said:
If thyre smart they won't, a lot of characters want really out of hand buffs like astaroth. I like that these threads help keep the DA active and we can focus on what we can debate would make a more fun character but for the sake of balance I hope most these threads arent taken seriously.
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bullrush does not need buffs! its a do all end all move! if they buff bullrush, i want 3B to frame trap and track to 1 side. =P lol
 
If they buff bull rush I want my k+g to win my the game. And a lot of people aren't concerned with balance that's the issue. They see holes in their characters or something that doesn't work as well as they'd like and they want it better.
 
well i believe theres a balance between buffing and nerfing somewhere...it should never come to the point that the game loses its variation but each and every character should at least have the most basic tools available to deal with any situation. + there shudnt be moves that are completely useless and retardedly unsafe even for the lack of purpose they already serve lol. i wouldnt want 3B buffed in a million years lol. its already an amazing launcher. but 4B is a different story...
 
Note that this topic is about what we WANT to see. I'll be the first to admit that I have no idea how to balance this game, and that my suggestions combined would create Godfried. But if Namco takes a look at this topic, and sees even ONE good idea to be utilized in the final game, then this topic has served its purpose.

Basically, this is so we can get a bit of consensus on what a good number of the Siegfrieds in this community want done to their character in regards to SC5.
 
Heaton, do you know the chances of Namco seeing this topic? What about that other topic named: "Turn your voice into the new game" on the announcement section?

Have anyone thought about linking this SC5 Sig topic into the "Turn your voice into the new game" topic? Is not a bad idea to do so. And the first post of the " turn your voice into the new game" topic can be edited with links to each character's wish list, organized.

The flaws I'd mention about Sig are real to his core play regardless of how any of us use him. And now there's video evidence. More than any balance change to SC5, I want these flaws fixed! No point for me to keep getting punished for make the right decision just because of a game flaw, its ridiculous, not motivating, & not fun.
 
Know what? I wouldn't mind at all if the next Soul game (SC5) featured a whole new story with new characters, and the gameplay to be as different as SC2 is from the rest of Soul games. It would work to have a new Soul game that will NOT cause me to not play SC4 anymore. If the next Soul game happens to be another upgrade of SC4 -just like SC4 is an upgrade of SC3 just like SC3 is an upgrade of SC1-, it would kill off SC4 or become a dead weight sever housing anyone who might not like the next Soul game. I mean, I still play SC2, not just because I like so much, but also because its different from SC1+SC3+SC4 (which = same gameplay). When I play SC2 I don't feel retro skilled or anything, playing SC2 doesn't affects how I play SC4.
So, i think it could work for the next Soul game to be different, not big different, not small different, just different, like SC2 different but without being a SC2 re-sale.
Keep good moves & replace frequently unused moves for new useful moves. Keep it 3D based (side step & run).

Anyway, what I mean is that by SC5 being different fighting game from SC4 rather than just being an upgrade, we would end up with two nice Soul games online that a lot of people would be playing. With that said, the next Soul game could also be more hardcore driven if it weren't to kill off its predecessor, like saying: "Let SC4 live for the casual to average gamer, & let SC5 for the average to hardcore gamer, specially for Soul driven gamers."

I mean, it sounds fair.. at least to me.

Another example of what I'm trying to say is MvC3 compared to MvC2, SSF4 compared to SF3rd Strike. Good & different.
 
Jink said:
Have anyone thought about linking this SC5 Sig topic into the "Turn your voice into the new game" topic? Is not a bad idea to do so. And the first post of the " turn your voice into the new game" topic can be edited with links to each character's wish list, organized.
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I second this
 
Synraii said:
Slayer, you're the mod, you do it XD
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done. couldnt see where jink was talkin about editing the 1st post, that looked like harada's twitter n facebook stuff, but w/e. i threw it up on my post on page 5 (or at least i think its on page 5...) if any of us havent posted yet, it would probably also be a nice refresher to see the link in a newer post too since it would draw more attention(only 1 post per person is allowed in that thread)
 
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done. couldnt see where jink was talkin about editing the 1st post, that looked like harada's twitter n facebook stuff, but w/e. i threw it up on my post on page 5 (or at least i think its on page 5...) if any of us havent posted yet, it would probably also be a nice refresher to see the link in a newer post too since it would draw more attention(only 1 post per person is allowed in that thread)
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What I meant was that if you could ask filthierich (the one who started the "Turn Your Voice Into The New Game" thread) to edit his 1st post to add links to wish list for every character, like this one, starting with this one. Or, we could start another more organized thread for Sig SC5 wish list with one post per player, then you ask him to add it to his thread. Other players could do the same for their characters on their threads then them ask to filthierich to add their links to his "Turn Your Voice Into The New Game" thread.

Could this work?
 
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