Theory Calibur/Go to DEV/Like This Post Thread

Just wanna give out pre-props for Devastation.

Suirad: Get on my level.

Malice: Get on my level.

Daggoth: Get on my level.

Vincent: Get on my level.

gw8t3t: Get on my level.

Dina: Get on my level.

Lasercakes: Get on my level.

Ramon: Get on my level.

lobo: Get on my level.
 
how is 70 dmg reset into another 100 dmg shitty? sophie has some of the best wall resets in the game. :/

get on my level.
 
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Vincent said:
Ring: Hell no. Everyone calls Sophitia a punishing character. She is definitely one of the best characters at it, but I play a mixup oriented game because I love her mixups. Also, because this is friggin soulcalibur not tekken. I like to think primarily, not react. So I don't waste my time looking to punish moves when I wanna play friggin' mind games. And also, I much prefer using a varied version of her TAS B combo so that it does more like 1/3 life dmg instead of an unreasonably cheesy 1/2 life.

Word to 8wayrun, I play fair. All u other haters can't compare. Grab a chair. Take a seat right over there. Sophitia's mammaries make me stare. I win money matches on a dare. As I'm typing this my ass is bare. My music is a blare. Wtf, why are there so many rhymes with care. My favourite RE character is Claire. I would hug her like a bear. I bring the heat like a flare. You guys lose with despair, and ur soft like a teddy bear. I'm moneymuffins, this is my lair. So tell filthierich to ban ivy on his questionnaire!

What what!!! Encore. Encore.

Okay. I got one more rhyme for this whole gang. I once went to France to show them my big Hwang.

Oooooooohhh
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If I had the option to like this post 1000 times, I would do it.
 
I should scuff all Sophie ass at Dev. with Cass, but Partibot'll be there and we are debating originality right now... =(
 
it lost serious points for "bare, bear, bear". so many more words to exhaust before repeating. hare, derrière, rare, chair, air, nightmare......

Vints: Get on my vernacular level.
 
Vints is my numbah won fan?!1?1one!? <3 tho

and im like 50-50 about coming to this

tho now that Vints took my shout outs...im gonna have to find some new shit to say :(
 
IvyFanboy said:
The issue is she's good and because of how complex she is a lot of people are simply ignorant on how to fight her.
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And this questions me how you are getting this? Are you just basing on ppl who only complain about her? Do you even consider checking what kinda background the player has gone through?

I mean what if the player does everything he/she possibly could to beat not just Ivy but other characters and read every info they could possibly read in this forum when their time permits it but still fail? Should they be silenced forever and not bitch and complain when they couldn't find the answers that solves their problem?

I've complained in the Ivy thread about her 214B and 7_8_9B, are you gonna call me ignorant when I already I spend nearly a long time period just as much as Eli spend his time studying his Ivy as well as considering the time I spend on this forums researching on strats against Ivy but doesn't come out well?
 
WARUI_NE said:
by posting intelligent things
seriously how can you even think ivy isn't on the same level as amy and voldo? Algol is the weakest of the top tiers and some don't even think hes top tier also ivy has a 6-4 in her favor against him
yeah she isn't easy as balls but neither is yoshi. I feel you on yoshi being retarded ON PAPER, but thats where my agreement ends no one on earth has the execution to make him top tier broken by nailing 44Bb combos and 4A:A:A:A infinites everytime
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I'm not sayin she's far off, but in my personal opinion I would put Voldo and Amy ahead of Ivy. I never said the difference was small or large, it's just the order I would put it in.

Algol is subjectively over powered. Ivy does in fact have advantage (I've said it in a million fucking threads), but some characters don't even have a game against him. If you don't have a way to beat bubble lock out you lose. I have never struggled against him but I sympathize with certain match ups in the spirit of balance.

My complaint with yoshi is and has always been iMCF leading to a doom combo. it's conditional in that it must be CF but the amount of RO range on that is RIDICULOUS. He's good without it, but this particular move makes all tight frame scenarios a heavily bias gamble. He's got a great balance of strong tactics and obvious weaknesses but I just don't feel a character should have such a long ranged RO without more to the set up. Ivy has one but it can only happen off of CH WP 33B and SW K and they don't go as far and don't do as much damage if they fail to RO, as well the set up is much harder to land IMO and even then I don't feel Ivy should really have it despite it's rare occurrence.

You're VASTLY assuming my reasoning off of things I haven't said or eluded too. Stop writing my arguments, because as far as I'm concerned the only stupid things I've said are the tid bits you've apparently written for me.
 
IvyFanboy said:
I'm not sayin she's far off, but in my personal opinion I would put Voldo and Amy ahead of Ivy. I never said the difference was small or large, it's just the order I would put it in.

Algol is subjectively over powered. Ivy does in fact have advantage (I've said it in a million fucking threads), but some characters don't even have a game against him. If you don't have a way to beat bubble lock out you lose. I have never struggled against him but I sympathize with certain match ups in the spirit of balance.

My complaint with yoshi is and has always been iMCF leading to a doom combo. it's conditional in that it must be CF but the amount of RO range on that is RIDICULOUS. He's good without it, but this particular move makes all tight frame scenarios a heavily bias gamble. He's got a great balance of strong tactics and obvious weaknesses but I just don't feel a character should have such a long ranged RO without more to the set up. Ivy has one but it can only happen off of CH WP 33B and SW K and they don't go as far and don't do as much damage if they fail to RO, as well the set up is much harder to land IMO and even then I don't feel Ivy should really have it despite it's rare occurrence.

You're VASTLY assuming my reasoning off of things I haven't said or eluded too. Stop writing my arguments, because as far as I'm concerned the only stupid things I've said are the tid bits you've apparently written for me.
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Can you even come remotely close to doing any type of iMCF doom combo?
 
Malice and lobo be hating on my level. But them bitches too afraid of me like the devil. They wanna sit by and criticize, so fine. They don't even know the first thing it means to shine. Talking about rap like they know skill. I play Calibur like I pay my bills. Plus I scare my foes like I was uncle Phil. Let's forget the money match and save the embarrassment. The way I dominate is sexual harrassment.

What's that, you had something to say? This place is my forum, enjoy your stay!
 
IvyFanboy said:
Algol is subjectively over powered. Ivy does in fact have advantage (I've said it in a million fucking threads), but some characters don't even have a game against him. If you don't have a way to beat bubble lock out you lose. I have never struggled against him but I sympathize with certain match ups in the spirit of balance.
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everyone has a universal way around bubbles it's called GI the 2A+B and just throw a B out. and before you say rock doesn't Im going to say use more 1A


if algol having some really lopsided match ups bothers you I have a question for posterity sake:

Kilik has an 8:2 or possibly a 9:1 against both raph and maxi what is your opinion on this?


also yay rap: I play ezreal, you know the deal. when I spam my Q shit just dies , after that the chat is filled with noobs cries
 
Raph is VERY good vs. Kilik. Dunno where you get that from.

Going to school now, but look forward to a response!
 
LostProvidence said:
Raph is VERY good vs. Kilik. Dunno where you get that from.

Going to school now, but look forward to a response!
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1B and asura say otherwise. its not like he has any fast horizontals to beat 1B with

incoming essay:

at close range its slightly even between kilik and raph both of their interrupt tools have the same speed (raphs 6BB vs kilik 6AA and raph 6K vs kilik 66B). The only thing I would worry about is 66B's CH but 6K being + on NH I guess makes it even. Kilik has superior mix up options to raph with kB at close range. even with this though some of kiliks options don't preform well up close against raph because he can punish things that rely on knock back to be safe like aBB,6B,4B,ect. Its worth mentioning both throw games are also about even due to raphs excellent throw range vs the damage of FOTD

Mid range is where it becomes a losing batter for raph. Raph is a mid range character who uses mostly slightly fast, mid, vertical pokes (lol this alone spells trouble). Raphs 3B becomes a massive risk to use with asura and 1B. To make matters worse WR B goes under it along with 4B+K. Prep loses to 1b completely, your only option is to shift into VE. Not that prep is even worth the risk when kilik has moves like WR B and 4B+K which don't beat every option but beat enough to make the risk reward heavily stacked in kiliks favor. Raph has a weakness to step but a much larger weakness to techsteps, raphs options against tech steps pretty much consist of blocking and baiting them. Raph can actually punish 1B with either 3B no prep and be at +2, 3B prep BB be at -2, or BB and be at -2. unfortunately pressing an offense at -2 or even +2 vs kilik is very risky. Raph is completely outclassed in damage against kilik. kilik needs to guess far less then raph for much more damage. further more making things worse for raph at mid range is 4B+K going UNDER BB(altho inconstant) ,3B,6K(your main counter to asura),3K(another excellent anti asura), and 6B(duh a TC beats a high).

Long range is just a lame poke fest and fishing for whiff punishes even then raph does less damage.
raph 236B=40
raph 66B 2A+B 60 (fuck 66(B))
kilik 22B=75
at this range raphs 3B can be GI'd by asura but the first hit of asura will whiff.

random cool stuff: 4A beats any option post first hit of asura blocked
25BB loses to raphs 44B with the second hit being TC'd
at certain ranges raphs 6K beats all options post blocked 66A


my opinion: raph needs to get close and stay close. On paper this is his best option. Up close kilik is more likely to asura so stick to 3K and 6K. making one mistake will put you far behind due to the difference in damage outputs and leave you at mid range which is the main issue. What I mean to say is... Don't get hit EVER. get a perfect every round

final match up score for raph 1or 2:fuck kilik

maxi vs klik
short mid and long range: asura
 
RedDjinn said:
Can you even come remotely close to doing any type of iMCF doom combo?
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Why do I need to be capable of doing it to have it be a valid argument? My friend Rayakin hit's that shit ALL the time I can't stress how many middle of the screen ring outs I've suffered to his Yoshi.

Can you do all Ivy's shit? Cuz if you can't then nothing you say matters including all your opinions on her AA, K, and guard. Online logic - DERP!
 
Complaining about iMCF leading into 44bB is just silly. iMCF is one of the shortest range moves in the whole game, it's not something you can appreciate by just counting frames which is I think what you are doing. Everytime I've been rung out by iMCF combo I knew I made a mistake. Also, 44bB combos are really, really hard to do, and it gets harder the more you go for. When you talk about super long range ringouts, how many 44bB's do you picture the Yoshi player doing?
 
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