Xiba Non-Gameplay Discussion Thread

let's see... a kid with a chinese sounding name that lived his early life in the ming empire on a mountain is the child of a korean and philipino ? XD that's crazy.
Just let him be a legitimate new character already, with no direct ties to the vets... atm we only have Mr Lips that qualifies as an entirely new character.
 
suuusuuu said:
let's see... a kid with a chinese sounding name that lived his early life in the ming empire on a mountain is the child of a korean and philipino ? XD that's crazy.
Just let him be a legitimate new character already, with no direct ties to the vets... atm we only have Mr Lips that qualifies as an entirely new character.
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You mean ties with the character in general or "being his parent" ties?
 
If anyone bothered to actually read my previous post I explain how Xiba could easily be the son of Yun and Mina. The connection of china rests with Kong.

The reasoning for Yun rather than Hwang lies with the redder colored hair of Xiba which is a trait of Yun (hell the entire personality seems to be based off of Yun). I also do not think there would be any other reason for Seong Mina to follow around Yun if she did not have an interest with him....she would have gone for Hwang if that was the case.

I hold by my belief that not only is Xiba the replacement for Yun and Seong Mi-na (and there is a possibility of Kilik as well...but I think the fighting style is completely different from Kiliks) but also that he is the son of Yun and Seong Mina. Makes complete sense in my mind and I will continue to think that till I am given proof otherwise.
 
jtdam09 said:
You mean ties with the character in general or "being his parent" ties?
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Mr Lips is the only character at this point who is genuinely new. The rest is either trained by the previous playable characters or their kids (I'm counting Viola as well). Xiba's only tie with the vets is that he was trained by Xianghua's father and Seong Mi-na's teacher, who wasn't a playable character. I would like it to stay this way tbh
kyrt said:
I also do not think there would be any other reason for Seong Mina to follow around Yun if she did not have an interest with him....she would have gone for Hwang if that was the case.
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implying that you can't care about anyone who is of the opposite gender unless you want to fuck with them have some romantic interest in them -_- I'm sorry but this is incredibly shallow, even for a soulcalibur character. And, as you have seen, project soul is fiercely avoiding marrying or making kids between two vets (Hilde has kids of an unknown father, Xianghua has kids with not-Kilik). I bet, from the remaining new characters, there will not be one single kid that's a child of two vets.
 
suuusuuu said:
Mr Lips is the only character at this point who is genuinely new. The rest is either trained by the previous playable characters or their kids (I'm counting Viola as well). Xiba's only tie with the vets is that he was trained by Xianghua's father and Seong Mi-na's teacher, who wasn't a playable character. I would like it to stay this way tbh
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I can agree and disagree with that.

Successors having ties with veterans help honor the veteran's names. It leaves people to question the whereabouts of previous characters 17 years prior to this.

Some with veteran weapons is understandable. On the other hand, the use of that weapon, and his/her personalities, should be called their own. Patroklos is a good example of this.

Viola, if she is revealed to be Amy, would be a case of revamping the character with a different moveset, and probably of a different personality. Not to mention a different name.

The only one where I do agree with your statement is Leixia, but personally, I'm not bothered with it.

One thing the roster lacks right now is a successor with a different weapon and personality, and yes, having completely new characters with no ties to veterans is needed as well, but you would have to wonder how they would play a role in the story. Based on a screenshot, Z.W.E.I. is at least interacting with Patroklos, and Viola fights alongside Z.W.E.I.

The roster just needs the best of both worlds: successors with predecessor's weapons but different personalities, completely new ones, and even successors with different weapons and different personalities altogether.

Compare it to Tekken:

Patroklos, Pyrrha=Jin (Tekken 3) and Asuka Kazama, respectfully, but Asuka's personality is different from Jun's
Leixia=Julia, whose personality and fighting style matched with Michelle, but she later had moves added
Viola=Julia->Jaycee, basically.
 
I think you misunderstood me.
I didn't mean that Viola is Amy, I meant that Violamy is Raphael's kid. Pyrrha & Pat are Sophitia's kids. Leixia is Xianghua's kid. Natsu is Taki's student. I don't see anything bad with that but it bothers me that they're just being lazy with the new characters. They're assuming that, well, people loved the characters so we're gonna throw in a bunch of their kids in the game as "new" characters instead of actually trying to make someone entirely new that people will like. Their only try was ZWEI who ended up looking like some kind of fantasy shonen anime reject with a weird creature jumping out of his pants and a serious botox addiction. And when there's a new character, the fanbase is so used to the kid scheme that everyone is assuming he has to be a veteran kid. I don't even think that Xiba's personality is at all similar to Yun Seong's, he's more like Goku from dragon ball if anything. This is what I wanted personally, even if the fighting style is based on older characters, he doesn't have to carry the "burden" of being a vet kid. He's a totally new, separate character and let him be one.
 
suuusuuu said:
I think you misunderstood me.
I didn't mean that Viola is Amy, I meant that Violamy is Raphael's kid. Pyrrha & Pat are Sophitia's kids. Leixia is Xianghua's kid. Natsu is Taki's student. I don't see anything bad with that but it bothers me that they're just being lazy with the new characters. They're assuming that, well, people loved the characters so we're gonna throw in a bunch of their kids in the game as "new" characters instead of actually trying to make someone entirely new that people will like. Their only try was ZWEI who ended up looking like some kind of fantasy shonen anime reject with a weird creature jumping out of his pants. And when there's a new character, the fanbase is so used to the kid scheme that everyone is assuming he has to be a veteran kid. I don't even think that Xiba's personality is at all similar to Yun Seong's, he's more like Goku from dragon ball if anything. This is what I wanted personally, even if the fighting style is based on older characters, he doesn't have to carry the "burden" of being a vet kid. He's a totally new, separate character and let him be one.
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I was actually saying "if" Viola is Amy, even though she probably will be.
 
suuusuuu said:
Mr Lips is the only character at this point who is genuinely new. The rest is either trained by the previous playable characters or their kids (I'm counting Viola as well). Xiba's only tie with the vets is that he was trained by Xianghua's father and Seong Mi-na's teacher, who wasn't a playable character. I would like it to stay this way tbh
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Have we forgotten about ZWEI? Being connected to previous characters is fine imo as long as not everybody is the child of a previous character.
 
lol, from the rough translations I've been getting from Google Translate, it seems that Xiba is a completely new character and that the rod "was weird and given to him/found by him (not sure)". Any connection to Korea through Kong Xiuqiang is completely coincidental and was picked from straws. It's like saying Tira is Hilde's lost sister just because they both have moles.

And anywho, Mi-na is a lot likelier to have settled down with Hwang than with Yun-seong, since she is a good deal older than him and the two treat each other like brother and sister. (That, and I believe Hwang was betrothed to Mi-na anyway, it's just that she was still getting over her rebellious phase)
 
back to Xiba...
if Xiba is supposed to be Sun Wukong and he's travelling with three other characters somewhere (to the west?! lawl) do you think that they're supposed to somehow represent the other characters from the Journey to the West?
idk just a thought, I don't know much about the novel but I remembered that it had four main characters so I noticed the similarity.
 
so zwei is mr lips... well xiba I'm assuming will be unique. It'd be weird to have all the monkey gimicks and have it not incorporated at all into his fighting style. Plus the kicks of his ce suggests that he'll have kick moves that are beyond standard which is different than kilik and mina.
 
suuusuuu said:
back to Xiba...
if Xiba is supposed to be Sun Wukong and he's travelling with three other characters somewhere (to the west?! lawl) do you think that they're supposed to somehow represent the other characters from the Journey to the West?
idk just a thought, I don't know much about the novel but I remembered that it had four main characters so I noticed the similarity.
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Well, from what Wikipedia can (assumingly) accurately offer, there's Sun Wukong, Zhu Bajie, Sha Wujing, Yulong Santaizi, and also Xuanzang the monk. Not really sure what other similarities there are, but I think these five are Xiba and the others, and Kong Xiuqiang.
 
suuusuuu said:
back to Xiba...
if Xiba is supposed to be Sun Wukong and he's travelling with three other characters somewhere (to the west?! lawl) do you think that they're supposed to somehow represent the other characters from the Journey to the West?
idk just a thought, I don't know much about the novel but I remembered that it had four main characters so I noticed the similarity.
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Interesting observation
 
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