Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3

I'm not. Character sucks. Get blloooowwwwnnn up. Obviously you can make him work, but I doubt we'll see very many people take the time to do so.
Right...he does sucks. BS my friend. He is a good character. People are just lazy assholes. If it's not top tier their knowledge of said character is limited. Besides, one of the PWs on srk found some nasty tech with paperwork. We're moving on up my good friend. But I will agree with you that if he didn't have 1 million hp he wouldn't be all that. Btw, what do you think of my second team of Hulk/Ghostrider/Nemesis. I think it's a fucking scary brick wall.
 
You can absolutely combo off command grab anywhere, you can cancel the attack animation.... it's retarded.
Yeah, I didn't know you could dash cancel out of the command grab. Wtf is that. Anyway guys, remember to hold up/back against Wesker, and not get mixed up!
Right...he does sucks. BS my friend. He is a good character. People are just lazy assholes. If it's not top tier their knowledge of said character is limited. Besides, one of the PWs on srk found some nasty tech with paperwork. We're moving on up my good friend. But I will agree with you that if he didn't have 1 million hp he wouldn't be all that. Btw, what do you think of my second team of Hulk/Ghostrider/Nemesis. I think it's a fucking scary brick wall.
If you don't lather him with crazy good assists/teammates, he gets blown up. Ultradavid even said that, outside of Turnabout Mode, Wright's hardly even a character. Don't interpret what I'm saying as "This character isn't worth playing", btw. Every character in UMvC3 is good, I will say that. Characters like PW just take a lot more work, and a team built around them, because, well...they suck.

Hulk/Ghostrider/Nemesis seems fine. Hulk has nothing to help him get in though, other than Nemesis' rocket I guess. Not too sure how well Rider/Nemesis work together either.
 
Yeah, I didn't know you could dash cancel out of the command grab. Wtf is that. Anyway guys, remember to hold up/back against Wesker, and not get mixed up!

If you don't lather him with crazy good assists/teammates, he gets blown up. Ultradavid even said that, outside of Turnabout Mode, Wright's hardly even a character. Don't interpret what I'm saying as "This character isn't worth playing", btw. Every character in UMvC3 is good, I will say that. Characters like PW just take a lot more work, and a team built around them, because, well...they suck.

Hulk/Ghostrider/Nemesis seems fine. Hulk has nothing to help him get in though, other than Nemesis' rocket I guess. Not too sure how well Rider/Nemesis work together either.
Well I brought good assists with Wright. He needs them if he wants to stay alive.:D. And I was thinking of changing the launcher assist with Nemesis to that rocket and see how that works out. Hulk HAS a way to get in but it's pretty shitty. He has 1 point of hyper armor on his gramma charge. He can go through some projectile with that, but it ain't special. Rdier helps Hulk with heartless spire, so I don't have to gramma wave to keep my combos going. And I'll test how well Rider and Nemesis work tonight. I think they work well together.
 
Well I brought good assists with Wright. He needs them if he wants to stay alive.:D. And I was thinking of changing the launcher assist with Nemesis to that rocket and see how that works out. Hulk HAS a way to get in but it's pretty shitty. He has 1 point of hyper armor on his gramma charge. He can go through some projectile with that, but it ain't special. Rdier helps Hulk with heartless spire, so I don't have to gramma wave to keep my combos going. And I'll test how well Rider and Nemesis work tonight. I think they work well together.
If you think a team can work, then just go for it. Most people will try to sway you one way or another, most likely towards characters you won't enjoy playing. One of the best FG players I know was running Cap Am/Skrull/Doom in 3.0, and wrecking shop, despite that team not being very good at first or second glance. Unless your team has absolutely horrible synergy and just does not work, such as a team like Wright/Frank/Arthur, it all comes to down how well you know your team, and how good you are at the game.
 
If you think a team can work, then just go for it. Most people will try to sway you one way or another, most likely towards characters you won't enjoy playing. One of the best FG players I know was running Cap Am/Skrull/Doom in 3.0, and wrecking shop, despite that team not being very good at first or second glance. Unless your team has absolutely horrible synergy and just does not work, such as a team like Wright/Frank/Arthur, it all comes to down how well you know your team, and how good you are at the game.
I think that's why I'm liking the game more and I'm actually having fun for one. I already found nasty shit with all three of teams and solid DHCs.
 
I think that's why I'm liking the game more and I'm actually having fun for one. I already found nasty shit with all three of teams and solid DHCs.
I'd imagine so. The main problem with 3.0 is the lack of research that was done on many of the characters, and what was done was never really acknowledged. DHC glitch, though it did open up a new world of depth for combos and synergies, also alienated a bunch of possible teams. X-Factor was also a big problem, as was invincible assists and Dark Phoenix. The big stuff's been taken care of, so as a result, Ultimate is going to be a lot more enjoyable on the whole. Course, that will only be the case if it's given time.
 
O gawd, i haven't run into anyone like that yet, how was it?

When playing as this team, it is really easy to beat opponents who try to rush down. Though, this team runs into trouble against those who like to lame out all day.

Fighting against them, for me, is a cake-walk because I know each characters' strengths for the most part (and I play Sentinel/Nemesis seriously lol). I just bait out their armored normals and make them burn meter and possibly X-Factor and then I swoop in for the kill with Taskmaster/Nova/Captain/Sentinel/Other.
 
I'd imagine so. The main problem with 3.0 is the lack of research that was done on many of the characters, and what was done was never really acknowledged. DHC glitch, though it did open up a new world of depth for combos and synergies, also alienated a bunch of possible teams. X-Factor was also a big problem, as was invincible assists and Dark Phoenix. The big stuff's been taken care of, so as a result, Ultimate is going to be a lot more enjoyable on the whole. Course, that will only be the case if it's given time.
That is a good point. I felt lost in mvc3. In this one I can go to mission mode do some combos get into a character, and then take them to the REAL lab and explore them more. I been liking Frank and Fefe a lot. I might take them into the lab. But yeah the lack of knowledge on a lot of characters destroyed the game. People we're like," I could play Team Avengers; but I wanna win, so I'll pick Dante, Mr. Wisker(Wesker), and Phoenix." They called it a day after that. It's sad that most fighting game players have small brains(MY OPINION) when it comes to that.
 
That is a good point. I felt lost in mvc3. In this one I can go to mission mode do some combos get into a character, and then take them to the REAL lab and explore them more. I been liking Frank and Fefe a lot. I might take them into the lab. But yeah the lack of knowledge on a lot of characters destroyed the game. People we're like," I could play Team Avengers; but I wanna win, so I'll pick Dante, Mr. Wisker(Wesker), and Phoenix." They called it a day after that. It's sad that most fighting game players have small brains(MY OPINION) when it comes to that.
Not so much knowledge, but research. It was more that people didn't want to take the time to learn other characters, when so much had already been done on some very strong characters, who surfaced pretty quickly. And despite what you may have heard, not many people played Dante, simply because he takes work. The only one who managed to win a major with him (if I recall correctly) was Floe, who has since dropped Dante. There were only a few other Dantes besides Floe that were notable, really. Yipes, Chrisis, PR Balrog, and KBeast.

Wolverine/Wesker/Akuma was easily the most easy mode and braindead effective team out there, but not one of the best. I would probably debate that Viper/Dante/Magneto was the best team in the game, it's just that no one realized it at the time, but that's kind of pointless now. Point is pretty much that Ultimate is a chance for the community to start over, and go in-depth with everyone.

And you're correct, many fighting game players (at least nowadays) aren't that smart.
 
Not so much knowledge, but research. It was more that people didn't want to take the time to learn other characters, when so much had already been done on some very strong characters, who surfaced pretty quickly. And despite what you may have heard, not many people played Dante, simply because he takes work. The only one who managed to win a major with him (if I recall correctly) was Floe, who has since dropped Dante. There were only a few other Dantes besides Floe that were notable, really. Yipes, Chrisis, PR Balrog, and KBeast.

Wolverine/Wesker/Akuma was easily the most easy mode and braindead effective team out there, but not one of the best. I would probably debate that Viper/Dante/Magneto was the best team in the game, it's just that no one realized it at the time, but that's kind of pointless now. Point is pretty much that Ultimate is a chance for the community to start over, and go in-depth with everyone.

And you're correct, many fighting game players (at least nowadays) aren't that smart.
Oh shit! I forgot about wolve, akuma, and mr.wisker. You're totally right. And I realize he takes a lot of work after trying his missions. But yeah I felt no one played Viper besides Marlin Pie. And he was a beast with her. I was shocked no one sued her. And Viper/Dante/Magento sounds pretty godlike. I bet that team still kick ass in this game.
 
Oh shit! I forgot about wolve, akuma, and mr.wisker. You're totally right. And I realize he takes a lot of work after trying his missions. But yeah I felt no one played Viper besides Marlin Pie. And he was a beast with her. I was shocked no one sued her. And Viper/Dante/Magento sounds pretty godlike. I bet that team still kick ass in this game.
There were three main Viper players during 3.0, and they were (of course) Marlin Pie, Chrisis, and KBeast. Both Chrisis and KBeast played Viper/Dante/Magneto, and they are a testament to how absolutely ridiculous that team was. It's still very good, I'm sure, but I have a very strange feeling, seeing as Marlin Pie dropped Magneto and Ammy for Dante and Vergil. He had one of the best Magnetos out there, probably the best, but his main is Viper, and he builds his teams solely around her. So given that, there has to be a reason why he didn't continue playing Magneto; perhaps in the transition to Ultimate, his synergy with Viper and Dante decreased, I'm really not sure. Viper/Dante is still the best duo though, outside of Dante/Vergil (Hella synergy going on here, like most people wouldn't believe), so it's okay.
 
There were three main Viper players during 3.0, and they were (of course) Marlin Pie, Chrisis, and KBeast. Both Chrisis and KBeast played Viper/Dante/Magneto, and they are a testament to how absolutely ridiculous that team was. It's still very good, I'm sure, but I have a very strange feeling, seeing as Marlin Pie dropped Magneto and Ammy for Dante and Vergil. He had one of the best Magnetos out there, probably the best, but his main is Viper, and he builds his teams solely around her. So given that, there has to be a reason why he didn't continue playing Magneto; perhaps in the transition to Ultimate, his synergy with Viper and Dante decreased, I'm really not sure. Viper/Dante is still the best duo though, outside of Dante/Vergil (Hella synergy going on here, like most people wouldn't believe), so it's okay.
Marlinpie will be in top 8 for evo. I might go offline for this game. I wish he didn't drop his vanilla team. I think it's really good.
 
Well I brought good assists with Wright. He needs them if he wants to stay alive.:D. And I was thinking of changing the launcher assist with Nemesis to that rocket and see how that works out. Hulk HAS a way to get in but it's pretty shitty. He has 1 point of hyper armor on his gramma charge. He can go through some projectile with that, but it ain't special. Rdier helps Hulk with heartless spire, so I don't have to gramma wave to keep my combos going. And I'll test how well Rider and Nemesis work tonight. I think they work well together.

If you wan't something that works for this team then you will probably want to use Rocket punch with Sent and Chain with Ghost. The chain will allow you to move in slowly and it comes out really fast, I wouldn't go with Spire mainly because it does way to many hits and make you have to shorten your Hulk combo's a lot. The range on spire as an OTG is meh when you compare it to Rocket Punch. Rocket punch adds more damage to hulks combos and it has amazing range and its very easy to extend throw combos with. You can also use Hulk's AA gamma charge for both Ghost and Sent to help keep them safe so the team can work well together.

You should NOT use gamma charge as your way to get in on people as it is very punishable and having to burn meter just to make it safe isn't worth it for hulk. If you want to get in on people then call in ghost to use Chain and dash-jump cancel into j.H. If they try and jump you can potentially air grab them and get a huge combo with Sent assist or you can force them hold their ground or super jump.

I mained Hulk in Vanilla and I still play with him in Ultimate so if you have questions I can help you out.
 
On Marvel news, I went to Wednesday Night Fights yesterday and got bodied in the marvel tournament! For some reason I just got nervous and I was screwing up inputs and it cost me the whole tournament. When I went to play casuals I did really well and I was winning pretty consistently. I didn't use my Nova or my Ghost since I still don't feel confident playing on stick and I've only really gotten stick practice with my Hulk team. I do think I will start playing hulk though since most people don't know what to do against him.

Oh and my buddy wants to start going every week so I may start getting into Marvel a lot more competitively now and if they start have SCV when it comes out then things will be looking up!
 
I do think I will start playing hulk though since most people don't know what to do against him!

I don't think that's the best course of action - you shouldn't ever rely on an opponent's ignorance for a win condition in anything. To put it the way a guy put it to me at my first Yu-Gi-Oh tournament when I was younger, 'You never want to have a base a strategy around what your opponent may or may not be running.' If it cripples some people, fine and all, but don't relying on gimmicks takes away from solid gameplay.
 
Marlinpie will be in top 8 for evo. I might go offline for this game. I wish he didn't drop his vanilla team. I think it's really good.
Viper/Magneto/Ammy was pretty much the cheap team that was anti-cheap stuff, primarily Phoenix. Marlin had a lot of failsafes built into that team, and it definitely showed.
I do think I will start playing hulk though since most people don't know what to do against him.
Well first, good to hear you're getting out to WNF now. You'll definitely gain a lot of experience and knowledge.

As for the quoted sentence above, there's a very easy way to battle Hulk: just run away.
 
Still on the hunt for a new team. Been Trying Cap/arthur(daggers)/strider(vajra) now. Arthur appears to be the best projectile assist period for cap. fast start up, long hold, and slow projectile to follow him in. He's got 2 safe DHCs as well but can only link dhc in corner (which is very common). Strider works as a great anti air that cap can fully combo off ofwith OTG shield and arther can too with jumping bottle toss done preemptively.

My main concerns with this team is the competitive value of arthur and the meter management between him and strider. Generally I don't armor Arthur unless i need to and stick with strider assist spam and projectile walls.

Also Strider is hard to use, really fast and really difficult basic BnBs for very small reward. I personally would like to invest time in him and maybe drop arthur for another character...but arthur assist is toooo good for cap.
 
I don't think that's the best course of action - you shouldn't ever rely on an opponent's ignorance for a win condition in anything. To put it the way a guy put it to me at my first Yu-Gi-Oh tournament when I was younger, 'You never want to have a base a strategy around what your opponent may or may not be running.' If it cripples some people, fine and all, but don't relying on gimmicks takes away from solid gameplay.

Honestly It's hard not to take advantage of peoples ignorance when it comes to Hulk I get so much damage because people think its ok to rush hulk down. I play Hulk really safe regardless of who I'm playing against its just something I've forced myself to do.

Well first, good to hear you're getting out to WNF now. You'll definitely gain a lot of experience and knowledge.

As for the quoted sentence above, there's a very easy way to battle Hulk: just run away.

Main thing I learned is that I still get tournament nerves and it sucks, I got nervous as hell and I was playing like crap and it cost me the entire tournament. I'm guessing that the more I go to WNF the more I will learn to get over it, just a matter of time. Also the amount of Vergil matches I will be getting is going to be insane as I saw like everyone using him.

About the hulk thing, You are absolutely correct. Most people try to play against hulk like they would any other character and I just armor through them and get massive damage. Though for people who run away I usually just bring in Dormammu and have my hulk as a GTFO assist.
 
So i finally used Dark Wesker.

Honestly i couldn't play because i was laughing at how hilarious his speed was, it was like hacks speed or something, and i couldn't even tell how much damage i was doing because i wiped Dark Phoenix, Sent and Hulk in seconds.
 
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