Raph confirmed as SCV Nightmare :D

Okay, I believe Nightmare is Raphael. Look at the picture of them as one provided originally as two pics by me (drunk cred) They look the exact same regardless. Raphael's art has a phantom style image near the feet and ankles implying something is a new with him. I could be drunk or something normal, but I think Graf is Raphael. End of story.
 
Is Raphael XDD the same hair, but...the same hair´s color and Lips?...THE FACE, the body.... XDD i dont believe the "Namco´s Lazy"...this is not a coincidence
 

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You know even though it was a comical ending. Didn't Amy shove Raphael off the edge of the remaining floor of Ostrheinsburg? Died from the fall?

Edit:.....on Second thought, his bio makes it seem like he's been drifting or sleeping? I'm confused. SO has he just been an apparition since SC4?SO then that would be pretty substantial as to why he's nightmare, didn't Raph end up killing his entourage at SC4's ending? Maybe with the subtraction of sc presence in Raph's ending, that same event may have taken effect in a different way?
 
if you play the story that one graf dude in the beggininng looks like te 3p. I was also kinda suprised with the similarities too when i got my copy yesterday, but the second or third mission shows that guy.
 
VWBF said:
You know even though it was a comical ending. Didn't Amy shove Raphael off the edge of the remaining floor of Ostrheinsburg? Died from the fall?

Edit:.....on Second thought, his bio makes it seem like he's been drifting or sleeping? I'm confused. SO has he just been an apparition since SC4?SO then that would be pretty substantial as to why he's nightmare, didn't Raph end up killing his entourage at SC4's ending? Maybe with the subtraction of sc presence in Raph's ending, that same event may have taken effect in a different way?
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To make sense of it the playable Raph is from after story mode. You don't see what happens to Nightmare but Raph was probably freed from Soul Edge.

Its kinda like how the Xiba thats playable is a Xiba from before story mode
 
DoctorForHire said:
To make sense of it the playable Raph is from after story mode. You don't see what happens to Nightmare but Raph was probably freed from Soul Edge.

Its kinda like how the Xiba thats playable is a Xiba from before story mode
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So then what does that mean for Kilik?
 
What I think happened:
When ZWEI was backstabbed by Pyrrha Omega, Nightmare was missing from the scene. Probably lost via Ring Out and fell into a dungeon. Woke up as Raph again and looked for Amy. Viola is Amy, but lost her memories of Raph since majority of her memories with Raph was when she was infected with Soul Edge. Being with Sieg might have "purified" her malfestation and thus got rid of the memories she had of Raphael. Regarding Nightmare's fighting style. It is named "Memories of Soul Edge" not "Memories of Raphael". So Soul Edge must prefer Sieg's weapon instead of Raph's. Nightmare's appearance must be recreated from how Raph remembers him from the end of SCII. Wing helm with red hair ornaments. The horn must be Soul Edge's personal touch (Soul Edge has a soul named Inferno). I have no explanation for Viola's fighting style though. She may have forgotten how to fence, but I can't explain the claw/orb fighting style.
 
maybe amy was killed by soul edge or is somehow tricking raphel into thinking that it is amy and when he grabs it, BAM! you got a new nightmare.
 
Can someone confirm this: My friend told me that if you beat Amy with Nightmare, he has a special win pose and quote? I've never actually looked through most win poses...
 
messiah154 said:
Can someone confirm this: My friend told me that if you beat Amy with Nightmare, he has a special win pose and quote? I've never actually looked through most win poses...
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I WOULD, but that would mean putting SC4 back in the 360 and THAT'S not happening anytime soon.
 
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